STUART FAMILY - Runcorn (?)

[paulchapman]

1851 Census Runcorn
Mary Stuart 18 b Bartley Lancashire, daughter of Alexander & Sarah Stuart


Mary Stuart bapt 17 Mar 1836, Nantwich, Cheshire parents Alexander & Sarah Stuart

the second lady is the one who married in 1852, can it be the same person on the census return in 1851? i cannot find a mary stuart born in nantwich on the 1851 census.

likewise i cannot find a birth for a mary stuart with these parents in 1833.

sorry if im raising more questions than im answering here.


 

[mikeyr62]

1851 Census Runcorn
Mary Stuart 18 b Bartley Lancashire, daughter of Alexander & Sarah Stuart


Mary Stuart bapt 17 Mar 1836, Nantwich, Cheshire parents Alexander & Sarah Stuart

the second lady is the one who married in 1852, can it be the same person on the census return in 1851? i cannot find a mary stuart born in nantwich on the 1851 census.

likewise i cannot find a birth for a mary stuart with these parents in 1833.

sorry if im raising more questions than im answering here.
 

It always seems to be the way - one question is answered but another one hundred arise.

I think that these two Mary Stuarts are one and the same - after all, how many Mary Stuarts could there have been with a father called Alexander and a mother called SArah?

Mike

[mikeyr62]

In the 1841 Census Alexander Stuart's occupation is 'Chemist', High Street, but in 1851 it is 'Laborer' Wellington Street. In the 1861 Census Sarah Stuart, Wellington Street, is a 'Soap Works Foreman's Widow'.

Stan

I did wonder about the distinct change of profession but how many Alexander Stuarts married to a SArah could there have been in Runcorn at that time?

Mike

[paulchapman]

if we assume that marriage is correct, this is william and the same 3 children on the 1871 census, though he seems to have remarried to an ellen


William Scholes   40
Ellen Scholes   38
James Scholes   16
William Scholes   14
Harry Scholes   11
Alice Scholes   9
Ada Scholes   1

at the moment i cannot find a death for mary or a remarriage to ellen.

more questions.......................

[paulchapman]

there is also this mary scholes married to a william scholes , im totally confused now to be honest 

1871 Census Ashton under Lyne

William Scholes   40
Mary Scholes   39 b Dukinfield Cheshire
Mary Scholes   18
Franck Scholes   16
Hannah Scholes   14
Robert Scholes   7
John Scholes   2



 

[paulchapman]

1871

William Scholes   40
Ellen Scholes   38
James Scholes   16
William Scholes   14
Harry Scholes   11
Alice Scholes   9
Ada Scholes   1

1861 mis transcribed.

William Scheler   30
Mary Scheler   25
James Scheler   7
William Scheler   4
Harry Scheler   2

there is a potential wedding for a william scholes to a ellen williamson shawcroft in cheshire in 1865. as is the way with ancestary it doent specify the spouse in this year.

im not sure if any of this helps to be honest. if one of the sites more savvy members can get to the bottom of it i would be interested to know!

[mikeyr62]

1871

William Scholes   40
Ellen Scholes   38
James Scholes   16
William Scholes   14
Harry Scholes   11
Alice Scholes   9
Ada Scholes   1

1861 mis transcribed.

William Scheler   30
Mary Scheler   25
James Scheler   7
William Scheler   4
Harry Scheler   2

there is a potential wedding for a william scholes to a ellen williamson shawcroft in cheshire in 1865. as is the way with ancestary it doent specify the spouse in this year.

im not sure if any of this helps to be honest. if one of the sites more savvy members can get to the bottom of it i would be interested to know!

Thanks. This all totally confuses me.

It seems thar when one question is answered another thousand are raised.

And what became of James and Charles?

Mike

[paulchapman]

if that is your mary, then sadly she seems to have died at some point between those census or they divorced.

the kids she had should be easily traceable to 1911 via the census.

ill have a look for the other two, see if i can confuse us anymore!

[paulchapman]

to be honest with such common names without having access to the physical record i dont know how you can be sure of anything. in 1861 charles is still with his family


Charles Stuart age 29 b Manchester, living in Runcorn

Alexander Stuart   60
Sarah Stuart   59
Charles Stuart   29
Mary Stuart   18
Ann Boyer   67
Isabella Carodyce   38
Catharine Carodyce   14
Mary I Carodyce   12
Isabella L Carodyce   10
Elizabeth E Carodyce   7
John Nicholl   31
Wellington Cook   35

by 1871 his mother is living alone so he has presumably married.