Hi Mable,
Wondered what your connection to Herbert is, I believe Herbert born 1863 was the Husband of my grt grt grandmother Alice Dipple, I think she may have been Alice Smith when she married Herbert.
Alice had two children before she met Herbert , they were Frank and Eliza and then after they were married they had Herbert Jr born 1904.
Herbert was actually in prison on two occassions, the first time was in 1881 at the age of 19 when he was in Worcester prison, his occupation is down as a painter and the second time in 1911 again in Castle street Worcester and this time his occupation was down as a traction engine driver.
I wondered if you have any information you could share with me.
Regards
Steve