Puzzle - Hedley WALLISes

[Mizelar]

In a FreeBMD search, over all dates, for all events, there are 8 entries for Hedley WALLIS.  My G Grandfather, Hedley CLIFFORD WALLIS is at the top and the bottom of the list.

Hedley also crops up as a second name in the WALLIS realms.

I cannot believe that these WALLISes are unconnected!

Anyone fancy a bit of detective work? 

I have HC's (my) line, in Long Eaton, back to Thomas WALLIS (1793-1879) m Sarah CLAY (1798-1874) and possibly Tom's parents, John WALLIS (c 1760-c 1848) m Martha COCKING (c1760-1842).  Where did they originate?

Another likely connection is Gunner William Hedley WALLIS (b 1890 Beesby, Lincolnshire)  was KIA in WW1. Father: George b 1862 Louth, mother: Alice mary RICHARDSON b 1860 Yarborough.

My objectives are:

1.  Connect these Hedleys;
2.  If possible, discover where that name came from for the WALLISes.  ( I knew an Irish colleague with Hedley for a surname, so I'm thinking of a marriage possibly, but have searched in vain.)
3.  Discover the origins of the first of these tribes.

A little help in kicking off this Derbyshire, Devon, Lincolnshire and London project, will be very gratefully received:  I do love the detective work myself. 

[skewbald]

Hi Mizelar, are you a Cartwright by any chance?

Skewy

[Mizelar]

Sorry, no CARTWRIGHTs in my tree...  yet!   

[skewbald]

Hi, if you look at Ancestry trees there are living Cartwrights descended from Hedley Clifford Wallis who married Bertha Turner.

Skewy.

[Mizelar]

Skewy:

Thanks for the head up about the CARTWRIGHTS.  Unfortunately, I am still saving for a subscription and cannot view it! 

My G Grandfather, Hedley, had five children.  Two were childless, one was my grandfather, so the CARTWRIGHTS must descend from Franklin or John.  I'll see if I can find the connection elsewhere.  Maybe there's something on GR.

Thank you again for the clue. 

[johnxyz]

For access to trees, take a look at www.mundia.com. You'll need to register, but I undertand it is free whilst the site is still in beta test.  I do not have a subscription, but have just been able to look at various data for Hedley Wallis.

[skewbald]

Hi Mizelar, there is a Thomas Hedley Wallis in Hinkley Leic's. died in and in his will left money to Gertrude Wallis (spinster) and  James Hedley Wallis a customs officer.

In 1923 in Ipswich James Hedley Wallis left money to his widow Elizabeth.  Note that this Hedley seems to be a Christian name rather than surname addition.

A local one of yours. 

Wallis Thomas Black of the Yews Draycott derbyshire died 25 April 1926 at 18 Park Row Nottingham Probate Derby 30 November to Bernard Hedley Wallis lace manufacturer. Effects £1244  5s.

Black is another surname used from the mothers side I notice. I didn't realise it was so prevalent in England. We have it a lot in our Welsh and Scottish oldies using mothers name as middle christian name.

Skewy.

[Mizelar]

Skewy:

Thanks for the Leicester and Ipswich info - apart from the Hedley names, I've not even started on these peripherals yet.  I've already got several hundred names in the WALLIS line and that's just from Long Eaton area! 

Apart from the direct line, the top of my tree is extremely difficult to sort out, but I shall have to do it to get any further back.  Just hope I live long enough!

I knew there was probably a Leics connection because there are WALLISes in Kegworth and my GG grandmother, Catherine CLIFFORD,  came from there - hence Hedley's second name.

Thomas BLACK WALLIS is my first cousin 3 x removed and he left £37,290.17 in todays money.  Tom was a partner in WALLIS Bros who manufactured lace machines for their kin ( and others) to manufacture lace on!  Nothing like a real family business.

They must have been exceptional machines too, because, when my grandfather and his brother retired in 1968, they sold their machines to the US.

I did not realise that BLACK was a common name here in Wales.  I only know that Welsh Black fleece is very nice for my hand-spinning!

BTW, do you have a sub to A or FindMyPast?  Because I was impressed with info on Tom's address and where he died.  If you do have a sub, can you check the 1911 for 18 Park Row, please? 

[skewbald]

Hi Mizelar, it was in the Wills section of Ancestry. Park Row as you may be aware is very near the old General Hospital, so maybe it was a nursing home? I've looked on old-maps.co.uk but just seems to be a building like a large house, where as on Virtual earth it shows a new build property.

I didn't mean by the way that Black name was Welsh. It is common round Long Eaton/Beeston. i meant the use of maternal names as middle Christian names. i.e. Pryrtherch in our line. Thanks for the heads up on National archivesm which is no help for Frank, but has given me the wifes father mentioned in Despaches. We knew he was, but not why, as it never appeared in the Gazette.

Skewy.