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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #45 on: Friday 22 April 11 05:03 BST (UK) »
Interesting thread as I too have been
trying to
find what happenend to a BENJAMIN family in London.

source 1841 and living in St Leonards Shoreditch:
Reuben Benjamin WATCHMAKER, bc1811 married to Harriett b c 1816 (surname unknown)
Racheal c 1836  born Quebec age given as 5(married 1857 John W. Clarke)

from 1851
Harriett BENJAMIN  listed as married and there is no Reuben Benjamin in the household.
Harriet aged 7
Rebecca aged 2 both born Hackney.
Ellen Benjamin visitor to the household.

Rachel working as a servant. (possible death Hackney 1891 MArch Qtr Rachel Clarke)

1861
Harriett Benjamin  widow (cannot find a death for REUBEN BENJAMIN)
with daughter Harriett.
Rebecca aged 12 is in a day school
Ellen aged 14 in the same area.

1870 Harriet Mary Benjamin b c 1844 married Arthur Stonnard

1871 and 1881 Harriet Benjamin with daughter Rebecca
Death for Harriet in Hackney in 1882.

1901 Harriet Mary Stonard aged 56 and Harriet Mary Stonard aged 29

I have been unable to find anything on Reuben Benjamin or the family of Rachel and John Clarke.

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 05 May 11 18:28 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

Thought I'd update as i've received more certificates to day and i'm also a bit confused!

So I have a marriage cert for Abraham Benjamin

1838 St Botolph without Aldgate, Middlesx
9/12/1838 Abraham Benjamin / of full age / Widower / .... and tea dealer / 27 Rosemary Lane, Aldgate , Father: Elias Benjamin Dead

Birth certificate for Adelaide Benjamin - 1848 Goodmans Field, The Whitechapel Union, County of Mddx
18th May 1848 8 'Mandle?' Street, Whitechapel, Adelaide, Girl, Father: Abraham Benjamin, Mother Louisa formerly Cohen, Occ: Traveller?, A Benjamin Father

Birth Certificate for Benjamin Benjamin - 1848 Goodmans Field (as above)
24/3/1840 Benjamin Abraham, Boy, Father Abraham Benjamin, Mother: Louisa Benjamin formerly Cohen, Occu: Ferrier?, A Benjamin father Little Prescot street, Whitechapl.

I'm a bit confused as I thought the mother Louisa had the last name Joseph but this is perhaps not the same lady?

Any ideas? Your help always welcome! Thanksxx

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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 05 May 11 18:33 BST (UK) »
So I have a marriage cert for Abraham Benjamin

1838 St Botolph without Aldgate, Middlesx
9/12/1838 Abraham Benjamin / of full age / Widower / .... and tea dealer / 27 Rosemary Lane, Aldgate , Father: Elias Benjamin Dead


Hi

What does the 1838 marriage certificate say about Abraham's bride?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 05 May 11 18:36 BST (UK) »
I have just re-read this thread and can't see where we came to the conclusion that Louisa's surname was Joseph......I do see that Anna mentioned it on 8th April,but why?  ;D

Carol

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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 05 May 11 18:39 BST (UK) »
I have just re-read this thread and can't see where we came to the conclusion that Louisa's surname was Joseph......I do see that Anna mentioned it on 8th April,but why?  ;D


Because of the synagogue marriage record found in the post immediately preceding mine (at reply #31).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 05 May 11 18:42 BST (UK) »
Wake up Carol  ;D

So she's the Leah Joseph then !

Was she widowed and Abraham was her 2nd hubby?

Hence her maiden name could then be Cohen.

Carol
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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 05 May 11 18:46 BST (UK) »

So she's the Leah Joseph then !

Was she widowed and Abraham was her 2nd hubby?

Hence her maiden name could then be Cohen.


 :D

Hence why I've asked about what the bride's details are on the 1838 marriage cert...
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 05 May 11 18:49 BST (UK) »
 ;D

I think I was reading through quickly and was looking for someone called Louisa  ;)
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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 05 May 11 18:54 BST (UK) »

So she's the Leah Joseph then !

Was she widowed and Abraham was her 2nd hubby?

Hence her maiden name could then be Cohen.


 :D


Sorry!

Leah Joseph - of full age - spinster - No profession - No fathers name or surname.... Useful!

Hence why I've asked about what the bride's details are on the 1838 marriage cert...