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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 27 March 11 02:10 BST (UK) »
She was obviously a kangaroo in another life JM!   ;)

(for those who don't know - kangaroos have the ability to save their next young until the season is right!)

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« Reply #46 on: Sunday 27 March 11 02:47 BST (UK) »
Yes, those pouches can be very handy in extreme weather conditions !
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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #47 on: Monday 28 March 11 16:33 BST (UK) »
Quote from: newburychap on Saturday 26 March 11 10:03 GMT (UK)
A local register (1740s to 1780s) rarely uses any term for an illegitimate child (the occasional base born) but most occurences of births to single women have 'the reputed father xxx  xxxx'.  Much more useful.

Indeed, the possible baptism of my 2XGGF has the surname crossed through but readable, reputed father would be much more helpful.
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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #48 on: Monday 28 March 11 23:33 BST (UK) »
Aha a kangaroo!!
That would explain my ancestor who had a child 3 years after her husband died and put his name on the birth certificate.   ;)

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« Reply #49 on: Monday 28 March 11 23:42 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Katharine F on Monday 28 March 11 23:33 BST (UK)
Aha a kangaroo!!
That would explain my ancestor who had a child 3 years after her husband died and put his name on the birth certificate.   ;)

Yep that will be correct then!!!  ;D ;D
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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 29 March 11 14:14 BST (UK) »
I wish my great grandmother had bothered to put my grandfather's father on his birth certificate,that's presuming she knew his name of course ;D

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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 29 March 11 14:37 BST (UK) »
Quote from: danuslave on Thursday 24 March 11 10:37 GMT (UK)
Better than serial killers!

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What a wonderful piece of history!  I believe the law (and please anyway correct me on this if I am wrong) was that a child was considered illegitimate if it was conceived before marriage, even if the parents were married at the time of the birth, up until the early 1960s. 

I've spotted a few baptism records that state 'illegitimate' but this has to be the best ever!

The only interesting baptism record I have is for my g grandmother who converted from Hinduism to Catholicism - her baptism record states her parents were 'heathens' and 'from heathenism' is entered in the comments column.  Wonderful stuff!
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« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 29 March 11 15:00 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Katharine F on Monday 28 March 11 23:33 BST (UK)
Aha a kangaroo!!
That would explain my ancestor who had a child 3 years after her husband died and put his name on the birth certificate.   ;)
I've 2 like that, born 2 and 3years respectively after the "father" was transported.
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« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 29 March 11 17:54 BST (UK) »
I'm still pondering on Guy's comment about why they didn't consider themselves as married.Three years between births and they are still not considered as man and wife ???

George.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth
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