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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 24 March 11 18:17 GMT (UK) »

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

At least they were more polite then Baptisums i found in Pembrokeshire PR`s

They were bxxtard son or daughter of so & so. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Nearly feel off the chair laughing.

In Sussex PRs its baseborn.

My daughter gave me a fridge magnet.My family tree is full of nuts.
It should be my family tree is full of fornicaters ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 24 March 11 18:36 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I can imagine the sermon at the baptism.

The first document has proved interesting and informative though.Alexander's birth is witnessed by a James Stewart.Immediately underneath that the birth of this James Stewart and his wife Elizabeth's child is witnessed by the father of the girl that would eventually marry this Alexander.James Stewart was a gardener at Hopetoun House and the 7th Earl of Hopetoun was the first Governor General of Australia.So they were fornicating in good company ;D

George.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 24 March 11 19:01 GMT (UK) »
There are many other English words and phrases used in the records: base; baseborn; begotten in fornication; by-blow; child of shame; lovechild; merrybegot; , merry begotten; misbegotten; ill begotten; lanebegot; scapebegotten; basterino; chanceling; whoreson; spurious; nothus; viciatus;

In Latin there are filius nullius (son of none - the girl did not know or want to say); filius populi (son of the people - anyone's guess); filius meretricis (son of a prostitute).


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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 24 March 11 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Stan

Was it you who recently posted the entries for serial bastards of one woman, and the vicar's comments?   :)

I can't find it - and I think it would bear repeating here.  It certainly made me laugh!

Linda
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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 24 March 11 23:56 GMT (UK) »
And 'fore nooners' as my Grandad jokingly called the children born before their parents married - there were (are) more than enough of them in his family, and he nearly made one himself, too ;)
West Lancashire - Leatherbarrow, Hunter, Sherman, Formby, Caunce, Cookson, Wright, Finch, Roughley, Sutch, Almond, Parr, Lea, Smith, Wignal, Marsh, Lovelady
Liverpool - Cottam, Candeland, Stewart, Breen, Owens, Wiseman, Johnson, Cross
Cheshire - Monks, Candeland, Cottam
Co. Durham - Palmer, Adamson
Shropshire - Huffa
Wales - Owens. Ireland - Breen, Wiseman

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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #23 on: Friday 25 March 11 00:10 GMT (UK) »
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #24 on: Friday 25 March 11 08:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Stan

Was it you who recently posted the entries for serial bastards of one woman, and the vicar's comments?   :)

I can't find it - and I think it would bear repeating here.  It certainly made me laugh!

Linda


This was it;
From a Parish Baptism register

- natural child of Mary X
- base born child of Mary X
- illegitimate child of Mary X
- another of Mary X's bastards
The parish priest/clerk was obviously getting a bit fed up.   :)

Stan
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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #25 on: Friday 25 March 11 08:46 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D ;D nice one Stan,started my day with a giggle anyway.

George.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #26 on: Friday 25 March 11 09:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Stan   :)

Linda
MOXHAM/MOXAM - Wiltshire & Surrey
SKEATS - Surrey
BRETT - Kent & County Durham
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SWINBANK - anywhere

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