Fornication and baptism

[Wiggy]

 

[jaybelnz]

I love Kirk Session records!! They tell it how it is - at least how it's seen through the eyes of the Holy Willies!! 

Daffing's OK - but no houghmagandie!! Especially threesomes I would think!!   

Jeanne

[majm]

Those of you who have done Scottish research will already know this, but n the "old days" in Scotland, the Kirk Elders would compear "fornicators" to appear before the Kirk Session to be charged with the sin of ante-nupital fornication. 
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Every now and again I get an email from him asking if I have any more spicey Kirk Session Records to send him.  LOL

  
A few years ago I came across a case in the Tillicoultry Kirk Session, unrelated to my wife's ancestors (for once), so I only read it out of prurience and didn't take notes.  A couple were accused of fornication and the girl's sister was called as a witness.  She knew the man visited but was not sure whether "guilt was committed" in spite of the fact that they were all in the same bed at the time.

Well of course .... there was no candle burning to shed any light for witness to see anything  and the witness had her eyes closed so she could get to sleep and she was on the OTHER side of the bed and she was unsure of the meaning of that big word they questioned her about and she was not yet being courted herself personally  ...  

[RedMystic]

A few years ago I came across a case in the Tillicoultry Kirk Session, unrelated to my wife's ancestors (for once), so I only read it out of prurience and didn't take notes.  A couple were accused of fornication and the girl's sister was called as a witness.  She knew the man visited but was not sure whether "guilt was committed" in spite of the fact that they were all in the same bed at the time.

Now, that was one very sound sleeper or a happy participant in a threesome!  

Or there is mjm's explanation - a darn good one at that!!

[jaybelnz]

  majm -  You're so funny!!

Jeanne 

[jaybelnz]

    You have to read Holy Willie's Prayer - written by Robbie Burns!!  It's really funny!

http://www.robertburns.org.uk/Assets/Poems_Songs/holy_willie.htm

[majm]

Thanks,  I put it down to the genes that came my way ...   

There's a touch of Orange and of Green from the Irish,  and then there's a Spanish Moor, and there's my convict who was sentenced to death(Scottish female arsonist) but was transported instead, because the Mad King agreed that she was īmbecile of the mind and there's my g g g grandfather (Wesleyan lay preacher, five times married ... some bigamously) and my lass from White Russia who grew up in Hong Kong, and my Cornish lot who refused to speak English, and not to forget the ones who fled to England from France, or ....

Did you hear about the newly wed Irish couple who sat up all night waiting for their sexual relations to arrive. 

[jaybelnz]

     Well done! majm!  Love your Irish newlyweds!!

You're a genetic wonder!!!

Jeanne

[majm]

Well  I do recall a time when a very rude man used a very rude word and told me to Go Back Where You Came From ... and I did chuckle quietly trying to decide where I should head off to.

However, from this newspaper cutting you can see that news of a Minister of the Scotch Church who made admissions as to his conduct ... well that news spread around the globe.... This is a report in an Australian newspaper in 1842 ... they got the information from another newspaper

6 August 1842  Sydney Morning Herald http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12422288

DEPOSITION OF A MINISTER OF THE SCOTCH CHURCH.-At the meeting of the Edinburgh Presbytery last Wednesday, the clerk, Dr. Gilchrist, read a letter from Mr. Hay, of the Dean Church, addressed to the Moderator, making the acknowledgment that he had been guilty of the sin of fornication .....

and as to what happened next well is in that cutting.