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Thomas CARTWRIGHT Born 1864 Birkenhead England
« on: Thursday 24 March 11 08:59 GMT (UK) »
I am completely stuck with my great grand fathers tree line. This is what I do know (or what I have)
He was born around 1806 in Birkenhead England.
He married Minnie Emma Alice Royal B: 8 Juy 1875
His mother was Winifred Elizabeth Parry 1848 - 1864
Thomas & Minnie had two children

Harry R Cartwright Son
abt 1900
Ilford, Essex, England
   
Winifred Ethel R Cartwright Daughter
1906-10-23
115 Balfour Rd, Ilford Essex, England

If any one could help I would appreciate it.
Thanks
 

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Re: Thomas CARTWRIGHT Born 1864 Birkenhead England
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 March 11 09:45 GMT (UK) »
Not sure why you posted this in the Australia forum?

Do you know what Thomas did for a living?

Minnie Royal was born in Hackney, as seen on the 1901 census:
Reference RG13, Piece 1651, Folio 31, Page 12
54 Windsor Road, Ilford, Essex

Cartwright, Minnie E  Wife  F  25  b Hackney, Middlesex
Cartwright, Harry R  Son  M  3 months  b Ilford, Essex
Ball, Ellen  Mother-in-Law  Married  F  50  Maternity Nurse  b Chilmark, Wiltshire
Royal, Ethel H  Sister-in-Law  F  27  Manageress City Restaurant  b Freemantle, Hampshire
Ball, Gladys W  Sister-in-Law  F  13  b Upton Park, Essex


The marriage took place near Newcastle Upon Tyne!

September qtr 1899
Tynemouth district  Vol 10b, page 444

Cartwright, Thomas
Royal, Minnie Emma A


But, I can't find Thomas in 1901?
Of the 6 Thomas Cartwrights born in Cheshire, around 1864, 4 are married and with their wives, 2 are single!
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Re: Thomas CARTWRIGHT Born 1864 Birkenhead England
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 March 11 09:57 GMT (UK) »
I'm confused ...

I read this that your great grandfather was born in 1806, Birkenhead, and also that his mother's dates are 1848 - 1864 ... and that he had two children, one born abt 1900, and the other in 1906 ...   As it is not possible for a child to be born before his mother, I wonder if you could please help me to help you.

 KGarrad has already mentioned this is on the Australian Board, and that is adding to my confusion.

Cheers,  JM 


Quote from: jodieannem on Thursday 24 March 11 08:59 GMT (UK)
I am completely stuck with my great grand fathers tree line. This is what I do know (or what I have)
He was born around 1806 in Birkenhead England.
He married Minnie Emma Alice Royal B: 8 Juy 1875
His mother was Winifred Elizabeth Parry 1848 - 1864
Thomas & Minnie had two children

Harry R Cartwright Son
abt 1900
Ilford, Essex, England
   
Winifred Ethel R Cartwright Daughter
1906-10-23
115 Balfour Rd, Ilford Essex, England

If any one could help I would appreciate it.
Thanks
 
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Re: Thomas CARTWRIGHT Born 1864 Birkenhead England
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:03 GMT (UK) »
There is a duplicate thread on the England - General forum.

If I knew how to create a link to that thread, I would!  :(
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Thomas CARTWRIGHT Born 1864 Birkenhead England
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:29 GMT (UK) »
Well I feel like a idiot... I must have typed in the wrong dates ...so sorry...the dates are (double checked) lol
Thomas CARTWRIGHT was born in 1864
His mother  ( Winifred Elizabeth Parry) was born in 1848 to 1864 ...this may mean she died giving birth?
He married Minnie Emma Alice Royal and they had two children as above.

And yes the other thread is mine as I am very new to this and as they ended up all living in Australia I put it here first...then realised what I had done.

I have worked around Thomas on other areas but can not find any definate leads on Thomas father or siblings. I have a photo.
I do appreciate any help.

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Re: Thomas CARTWRIGHT Born 1864 Birkenhead England
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:33 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: KGarrad on Thursday 24 March 11 10:03 GMT (UK)
There is a duplicate thread on the England - General forum.

If I knew how to create a link to that thread, I would!  :(

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,522642.0.html

Here's your link where I feel a bit daft now as I've duplicated the research done on here. >:(
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: Thomas CARTWRIGHT Born 1864 Birkenhead England
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:37 GMT (UK) »
Also as advised on that thread the marriage cert might provide some answers
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: Thomas CARTWRIGHT Born 1864 Birkenhead England
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Agh  ;)  Welcome to RChat, bestest site around for help with family history,

You say they all ended up in Australia

Do you know which state in Australia, or when they may have come, and who came ...

Are we looking for Thomas 1864 - ? & Minnie 1875 -?  and their two children, Harold R 1900 - ?  and Winifred Ethel R 1906 -.... all with surname CARTWRIGHT?

Cheers,  JM

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Re: Thomas CARTWRIGHT Born 1864 Birkenhead England
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 March 11 11:08 GMT (UK) »
Searched: marriages BDM NSW from 1910-1950
Marriage :  1930  LOCKHART
Husband: MACAULIFFE  THOMAS J 
Wife: CARTWRIGHT  WINIFRED E R   

Marriage: 1948  CANTERBURY 
Husband: CARTWRIGHT  HARRY RICHARD 
Wife: HUNT  IDA SHANNON 

Could be the correct marriage for Winifred but Harry would have been almost 50 years old.
Maybe a 2nd marriage? or maybe just the wrong Harry
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