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Confusing Man!
« on: Thursday 24 March 11 03:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

I just used Trove to do a random search on a missing relative, and wouldn't you know it, came up trumps, but now am extremely confused about what I have found.

The clipping states that Sarah Elizabeth is the widow of John Gurr and the third Daughter of John Williams Eyre MMB Castlemaine... I am confused as I have only ever known her father as John Williams... where would the Eyre have come from?

I have very little information about John Williams, and don't even know when or where he died.. could this be the reasoning? Why would it be just Williams on all the childrens birth records, but Williams Eyre here?

Also, what does MMB mean?

Any help appreciated!
Thanks

Ashleigh
Names: Chesson, Williams, Blowes, Bowden, Bowman, Bray, Cooper, Crawford, James, Wellington, Wheton.

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Re: Confusing Man!
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 March 11 03:13 GMT (UK) »
I think MMB is a Solicitor/ Barrister

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Re: Confusing Man!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 March 11 03:31 GMT (UK) »
No come to think of it LLB is a Solictor/Barrister
MMB I think is a Surveyor  ???
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Re: Confusing Man!
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 24 March 11 03:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Alison,

Do you have any idea where I would go to find out where and when he became a surveyor? According to my great great great grandfathers birth certificate he was a Baker and then on his marriage certificate he was a Gentleman...

I always wondered how he got from a Baker to a Gentleman?

Ash
Names: Chesson, Williams, Blowes, Bowden, Bowman, Bray, Cooper, Crawford, James, Wellington, Wheton.

Locations: South Australia, Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland, England, Scotland, Ireland


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Re: Confusing Man!
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 March 11 04:42 GMT (UK) »
I always wondered how he got from a Baker to a Gentleman?

When he's cooked enough books and made enough dough!

Just book marking actually but I couldn't resist the joke.  ;)
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Re: Confusing Man!
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 March 11 05:06 GMT (UK) »
I always wondered how he got from a Baker to a Gentleman?

When he's cooked enough books and made enough dough!

Just book marking actually but I couldn't resist the joke.  ;)


 ;D ;D ;D ::) :P    Hi Ted ;D

Ash the occupation 'Gentleman' often included the temporarily unemployed, financially embarrassed [bankrupts], the retired and those wishing to raise themselves above their given station in life ;D

My ancestors were surveyors in Victoria and their appointments were always announced in the Government Gazettes.
http://gazette.slv.vic.gov.au/

I have also noticed that assistants to surveyors [chainmen] often called themselves surveyors when in fact they were unqualified assistants....but extremely important in the big picture.

Perhaps the EYRE is a publishing error as in the indexes he is simply John WILLIAMS.

What was John's occupation on his death certificate?

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Cando



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Re: Confusing Man!
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 March 11 05:08 GMT (UK) »
Apologies Ash...missed the bit about you not knowing where he died :-[

He was simply John WILLIAMS on his marriage reg also.

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Re: Confusing Man!
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 March 11 05:20 GMT (UK) »
Ash if you can give me his approximate year of birth I can have a trawl through the indexes for a death in the Vaughan and adjacent areas.  Hopefully he didn't move too far afield.  His year of birth may be enough anyway.

His marriage certificate would give you his parents's names and help us find his death in the indexes.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 March 11 05:24 GMT (UK) »
John WILLIAMS was obviously alive in 1903 - year of his dau's marriage
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0cdz/

Back soon...will search for a John WILLIAMS death at Castlemaine after 1903.

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