Royal Irish Constabulary

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Speedwobble
His name is John Irvine married to Anne Jane Reid. First child born 1865 in Carlingford, Co Louth.

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Searching for service history of John Irvine - Head Constable RIC on daughters birth certificates in 1867(Carlingford) and 1869 (Clones) and daughter's marriage certificate in 1894 (Sligo). Looked at EVERY Irvine listed in Herlihy at TNA Kew but could not find him. Any ideas where to go from here please?

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[shanew147]

Searching for service history of John Irvine - Head Constable RIC on daughters birth certificates in 1867(Carlingford) and 1869 (Clones) and daughter's marriage certificate in 1894 (Sligo). Looked at EVERY Irvine listed in Herlihy at TNA Kew but could not find him. Any ideas where to go from here please?

Were you able to confidently rule out each of the John Irvines you did find ?

A couple of points about the 1894 marriage reference - the addresses given on the certs are those of the bride and groom, and may not be that of their families, also unless the father of the bride is a witness there's no guarantee he was alive at the time (certs dont always specifically state this).


Shane

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I think I can be sure as I have been to TNA twice! I even went thro all Irvines in case he was registered under another first name. Though the birth records are so clear that he was John Irvine I am contemplating a third visit to go thro 'Irwin' as a shot in the dark!
Thanks for the comment on the address as I assumed the bride was living at home at the time. The father was not a witness as, curiously, the wedding took place in Dublin.

[shanew147]

found a mention of John in Slater's directory of 1870 in Clones town :

  5 constabulary stations listed including one in the town at
  Diamond street with William B. Kelly sub-inspector
  and John Irvine head constable

.....
 Looked at EVERY Irvine listed in Herlihy at TNA Kew but could not find him.
 .....

just wonder if it might be worthwhile using the original RIC indexes on the films, rather than just the details in Herlihy's book in case there are any differences..


Shane

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dont know what it means, or if it's just a slip of the pen - but John's occupation on his daughter's marriage cert looks like 'Head Constable R.T.C.'...

 Marriage of George Johnston & Edith Olivia Irvine - 3 Jan 1894
 Dublin City, CofI Parish of St. Stephen



Shane

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dont know what it means, or if it's just a slip of the pen - but John's occupation on his daughter's marriage cert looks like 'Head Constable R.T.C.'...

I'd say it's bound to be Head Constable R.I.C.

eadaoin

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Thats wonderful news, Shane. Can I access Slaters via Ancestry or an Irish web site? Are the original RIC Indexes not what I was searching on microfilm at Kew?
It does indeed look like RTC on the cert but the birth details also say RIC so must be a slip of the pen