John PHILLIPS & Eliza KING

[majm]

So by 1878 NSW ER for Bathurst

There's only James Otis Phillips now a leaseholder at Peel St and a George Phillips, a resident of William St ...

NO sign of any others with the surname PHILLIPS on the Bathurst ER..

Cheers,  JM

[nyteowl]

Hi Neil, the death cert shows the PHILLIPS name, but we don't know if it was ever done legally.

REF No: 30409/1958  PHILLIPS  NORMAN JOHN  JOHN  BEATRICE MARY  PENRITH

Birth Cert shows :
REF No : 1090/1894  RICKETTS  NORMAN J     BEATRICE  SYDNEY  

and Thanks Jm, I'll check that out

[majm]

Re PHILLIPS and KING in Bathurst area circa 1860's

Bathurst sought to be made a local government area under the 1858 NSW govt's Act for Municipalities etc and a number of petitions went to the NSW Parliament.  SIX petitions in particular relate to Bathurst  IN 1859 and were submitted in 1859.  The following names that may be of interest... (one was FOR, one was AGAINST becoming a municipality AND there are counter and counter-counter petitions too)
  
NSW Govt Gazettes of  Tuesday 11 March 1859, #43;   Tuesday 27 Sept 1859, # 196;    Tuesday 25 Oct 1859, # 217;    Tuesday 22 Nov 1859 # 236;    Friday 25 Nov 1859 # 238;  Tues 27 Dec 1859 # 266

Robert KING, George St (signed at least two or there were two men by that name) and NONE who signed were named PHILLIPS...

BUT there was a further petition in 1862 Gazette 7 March # 52
There's Martin KING, householder in Bentinck St;  Henry KING, householder in Piper St;  NONE who signed were named PHILLIPS ..

Cheers,  JM

[Neil Todd]

Somebody correct me quick.

But I cannot find a marriage of a John Phillips to a Eliza King in NSW. Not in Bathurst or anywhere else.

A John Phillips Married an Eliza Bowring Bungonia, Goulburn in 1840

Neil

[majm]

I've looked TOO ... so I'm ready, standing  in line behind Neil for correction please ... cannot find marriage either ...

Cheers,  JM 

[nyteowl]

I am not sure of where JOHN PHILLIPS lived throughout his life, however I do know he died in the Prince of Wales Hospital, 10th July 1935.
Municipality of Newton is listed as his residence on the death cert.

The parents shown on this DC are JOHN PHILLIPS (Grazier) & ELIZA KING it's these two we are searching for.

Many Thanks Everyone for your time & patience :-)

[Neil Todd]

The mystery deepens,

What age is shown on his DC please nytowl.

A John W Phillips was born to John and Caroline Phillips in Bathurst in 1856 (Ref 3110/1856)

Neil

[nyteowl]

His age is shown as 74yrs, so birth year 1961 maybe ?

opps Correction 1861

and there are no dates for the parents, just names so does that mean they were both still alive in 1935 ?
btw are we allowed to post a copy of the certificate here?

[majm]

I am not sure of where JOHN PHILLIPS lived throughout his life, however I do know he died in the Prince of Wales Hospital, 10th July 1935.
Municipality of Newton is listed as his residence on the death cert.

The parents shown on this DC are JOHN PHILLIPS (Grazier) & ELIZA KING it's these two we are searching for.

Many Thanks Everyone for your time & patience :-)

I presume it also shows his parents were deceased ... Do you have confidence in the informant for that 1935 d.c. ... was it a family member, etc, could they have got his age wrong ... Are you looking at a partial or full transcript ... and does it tell you how long he had been in the Commonwealth or is this the document that gives you his place of birth as Bathurst NSW ...

Does the info on that 1935 d.c. conflict with any of the info on any b.c. for his children, or on his m.c's etc, and if so, I would tend to place greater reliance in the info on the FIRST m.c. for this would be info he gave himself, in anticipation of being with that wife for "ever after" ...

Cheers,  JM