John PHILLIPS & Eliza KING

[nyteowl]

I am searching for information on John Phillips ( birth -1895)  married Eliza King (birth-1912) I'm not positive on the dates though.

They had one son John Phillips died 10th July 1935. Unsure if there was any other children.
The son was married 3 times.
1st wife:  Ellen Langley m 1884,
2nd wife: Beatrice Ricketts m 1901, (my great grandmother)
3rd wife:  Mabel Hardcastle m 1904.

Information on John & Eliza, or any other info greatly appreciated.
nyteowl

[~MERLIN~]

Perhaps you have made an error in your request 

The dates you have for the possible births of the parents in 1895 & 1912 don't calculate if their son was first married in 1884 

You have previously stated that your John Phillips who married in 1884 was the son of John PHILLIPS and Eliza KING born on 8 Jul 1861 in Bathurst NSW and died 10 Jul 1935 in Randwick NSW.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,399809.msg3700483.html#msg3700483

[Neil Todd]

Bit Hard to work much out???

A John Phillips married
1;Ellen Langley in Leichhardt Sydney in 1884
2:Beatrice Ricketts in Marrickville Sydney 1901.
3:No marriage in NSW for Mable Hardcastle in 1904???

Cannot Find a Marriage anywhere in NSW for Eliza and John the parents of the above John.

A John and Beatrice Phillips had a Daughter Beatrice in 1896 in Newtown Sydney
and there is another birth to a Beatrice Phillips of a James in Woonona in 1899 no father listed??

A Little more ACCURATE information may lead down the correct path.
do you have the BMD reference to the marriage in Bathurst?
A John Phillips son of John and Eliza Phillips did die in 1935 at Randwick Sydney

There are six births to John/William John and various Eliza's in Newtown Sydney between 1882 and 1897 .

Other than that cant figure??

Neil

[Neil Todd]

Gees!!!!!!

It would have helped enormously to let us know his name was

NORMAN JOHN RICKETTS!!!

NOT NORMAN JOHN PHILLIPS OR AS YOU ORIGINALLY STATED JOHN PHILLIPS

ARGH

NEIL

[Neil Todd]

Hi

A NORMAN JOHN RICKETTS MARRIED MABEL M KERR AT ASHFIELD IN SYDNEY IN !1919 (REF4420/1919) 

Neil

[sparrett]

Hi nyteowl,

It is good we have got the right track started up now.

Easy enough to muddle things a bit when you are starting out

Have a look at your dates there as Merlin suggested, then perhaps try to put up the fullest possible information on you people.


Here is a link which has helped many.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,368728.0.html

Sue
 

[nyteowl]

Many Thanks everyone, we have only known Norman John Phillips (my grandfather) as Phillips, have now seen a birth cert which shows only the mother's name Ricketts, & no father, yet death certificate shows the name of Phillips.
The father on DC is John Phillips

My apologies Merlin, I just re-read how I posted the "dates" the years 1895 & 1912 are year of death, (hopefully right)
The 3 marriages I listed are on the death certificate of John Phillips.

The first marriage:- REF No: 2188/1884 John Phillips m Ellen M Langley @ Leichhardt they had 5 children
Esther 1885 / William 1886 / Lousia 1889 / Mildred 1891 / Emily 1892
I am hoping someone related to one these people, may be able to help with info on John & Eliza.

2nd marrige: REF No : 6970/1901 John Phillips m Beatrice Ricketts in Marrickville (this is where my family came in )

3rd Marriage : REF No 7321/ 1904 John Phillips M Mabel Hardcastle.

Thanks Neil, I think this person was my Grandfathers Uncle "A NORMAN JOHN RICKETTS MARRIED MABEL M KERR AT ASHFIELD IN SYDNEY IN !1919 (REF4420/1919) "

Hopefully this makes a bit more sense, and we find out more about John & Eliza that started us off, as they say :-)

[Neil Todd]

Hi, I am still a little confused on a couple of aspects.

If a father is not shown on certificate was his (IE Normans) name shown as Norman John Phillips or Ricketts? I can see that they married after his birth but was he adopted by John Phillips or just took the Phillips name?

I only say this because you may still need to find his correct name!

 

[majm]

Hi there,

I am also confused .... BUT

Are you after information about John PHILLIPS who died in 1895 and who was in the Bathurst area in the 1860's ...

If so, then the following may be  of interest, and  it is from Greville's directory of 1875 .. 
James Otis PHILLIPS, innkeeper in George St BATHURST

I am not sure if this chap would be "yours" but there's a middle name ...

Cheers,  JM

Edit to add, the 1870 NSW electoral roll for BATHURST shows same details for James Otis Phillips.. and also there's TWO chaps enrolled at Bathurst with the name John PHILLIPS, one in George St and the other in Piper St