Thomas Nicol (m. Mary or Margaret?)

[kenjo]

Dorothy,
I was just curious?
When Robert married in 1890, did he say . Henry was a Barber,  and that Christina was deceased?
Just wondering if, he knew, what his family was up to.
kenjo

[safarina]

KENJO

I'm not sure....why Robert would  give the incorrect name for his father on the Marriage Certificate....we "assumed" he still didn't want the association with the "Nicol" name, and because he, himself was known as Robert White, he gave his father's name as Henry-Galbraith White.....(  hairdresser)....(no idea where the "Galbraith" came from?)

He also made himself 4 yrs younger & his wife Jane Scott 7 yrs older.
We as family here felt that they didn't want her (Jane Scott)'s family to know that the drunken Barber in town was his father.
(Jane was daughter of Archibald Scott & Ann Henderson, and I have no info on them yet other than Archie was a miner)

Robert did give his mother's name correctly as Christina White (M.S.Gilmour -deceased) (note--Gilmour was Her mother's name, not her's)     (note: Christina's death was "Temperance-Sudden" in 1874)

At the time of Robert & Jane's marriage in 1890 Robert was living at 30 Elder street, Govan and Jane was at 26 White Street, Govan

 Robert's father Henry & Margaret (Mary) Nicol were at 295 Stirling Road Shop, Govan ..same address as on Henry's Death Certificate.
Both Henry & "Mary" were known as "Drunken people" according to the prior Poor Law application.

I have no idea where Robert's brother & sisters were.

I have the "large" marriage certificate of Robert & Jane and "large" birth certificates of some of their children & Army records that were kept in our family's possessions, but havent figured out how to make them smaller & still readable for my files or on the computer.

Thanks for the email...it just arrived.

Safarina

[safarina]

read previous post...

[capricorn]

Sorry if i seem a little confused here, but was'nt Robert's parents Henry Nicol and Christina White?, White being her maiden name, or so I thought.
Now on Robert Nicol or White's marriage cert, it gives his mother as Christina White nee Gilmour Have I missed something here?

Regards
Liz

[safarina]

I had just put in the earlier post what it had on the certificate...But this should answer you question as to the Gilmour name. I guess I forget that all this info I have in front of me isn't there for everyone else to see....sorry for confusion.

HENRY NICOL 
         b abt 1834   
         m.  14 JUL 1854   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland   
               Sp. CHRISTINA WHITE   
                 b. chr. 15 Nov 1832, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
                      dau of Christian Gilmour/Robert White (m.Nov 17,1820) 
       
       Christina White’s  parent’s
                     Mother: Christian GILMOUR 
                     Father: Robert (White) WHYTE 

Safarina

[kenjo]

Hi Dorothy,

Robert's father Henry & Margaret (Mary) Nicol were at 295 Stirling Road Shop, Govan ..same address as on Henry's Death Certificate.
Both Henry & "Mary" were known as "Drunken people" according to the prior Poor Law application.

Do you mean, you have seen the same address on the marriage cert, or are you seeing the same address on the poor law.

I am trying to understand, whether he was in in contact with his family.
he knew his mum was gone, and he seemed to know dad was still alive, which means he was in contact with family.

Dot, please don't think I am being, totally nosey, and/or agressive, it's just, I am trying very hard for you. as we all are. nothing is ever as it seems.
We all need to know, things that will help.
 

[kenjo]

Dot,
In regard, to your family certificates.
do you have a scanner?
If you do, then scan, the documents.
and save them to, maybe,,,  pictures.. which is in ....my documents... or just on your desktop.
Can you download off google.... IrfanView....
.I will wait, and see if you can do these things....
otherwise, can I suggest,,, that you ask 'deadants' in technical help. for advice.
he is great,
kenjo

[kenjo]

Dot,
In regard, to your family certificates.
do you have a scanner?
If you do, then scan, the documents.
and save them to, maybe,,,  pictures.. which is in ....my documents... or just on your desktop.
Can you download off google.... IrfanView....
.I will wait, and see if you can do these things....
otherwise, can I suggest,,, that you ask 'deadants' in technical help. for advice.
he is great,
kenjo

[safarina]

Kenjo

I was just saying that on the Death Cert. Henry was still at the same address on Stirling Street where  he was living when he applied a few years earlier for Poor Law

....and I also gave Robert & his bride's addresses to show that they were all living in Govan and I would think that Robert would know that his father had a Barber/Hairdressing  Shop as it is on  Robert and Jane's Marriage Cert.

Yes....Robert does seem to know all about his father Henry, but I don't know if he  had any actual contact with his father....and I was saying that for some reason Robert falsified his father's name some on the Marriage record.

Am I answering what you want, or am I still not getting what you are asking??  (I'm trying!)

Safarina