Looking for Charlotte Alice BUTLER's birth/parents (Liverpool, 1793-ish)

[blueowl]

Hello,  I am trying to get some info on the parents of a Charlotte Alice Butler who was born in Liverpool in about 1793 I believe. Her mother MAY have been a Margaret Kitchen but I'm not certain.

She married a Thomas Cullen at St Martins in the Fields, London on 2/12/1816, using that name, but later is recorded just as Alice.
I can't find her in the 1841 census, but in 1851 she was living in St Pancras (aged 58), then in 1861 aged 66 and finally in Leyton aged 78.
I believe she died in Q2 1878 in West Ham.

Any help on finding her parents would be greatly appreciated.

Regards   Blueowl

[Purpurea]

Hi

This link might help.

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/index.html

There's an email address for Liverpool Records Office if you fail to find anything in the search...

I'm sure they'd try to help you if they can .

[blueowl]

Many thanks, I'll give it a go.

Regards

Blueowl

[trish1120]

Sorry nothing to do with your original enguiry but you may not have these;

BURIAL;
Thomas CULLEN, 30 November 1834, Saint Pancras Parish, Middlesex, England
Age 40, Birth 1794

CHRISTENING;
CHARLOTTE Cullin, 25 November 1832, Old Church, St Pancras, London, England
Birth Date, 11 December 1823
Parents, THOMAS and ALICE
(Both Sources Familysearch Pilot)

If the Burial is Thomas then it puts into doubt William born c 1838's Father!

Also Christened in St John The Baptist, Margate, Kent;
MARIA WILSON Cullen, 20 January 1822 to a THOMAS/ALICE
+ THOMAS Cullen, 01 February 1824
(may not be your Thomas/Alice combo and if it is this Thomas may have died)

Trish

[ShaunJ]

Charlotte seems to have been baptised twice !

There's this one at St John the Evangelist, Westminster :

Bap. August 22 1824, born December 11 1823 Charlotte daughter of Thomas Cullen, gardener, and Alice of Kings Place St Pancras.

At the same church to the same couple are these other baptisms:

Thomas Matthew Cullen born Oct 24 1817, bapt Jan 31 1819 res Figo(?) Place St Pancras
Elizabeth Cullen born April 10 1820 bap April 22 1821 res Kings Place St Pancras

[ShaunJ]

The 1834 burial is for Thomas Cullen aged 40 of Kings Place; both of Charlotte's baptisms give the residence as King's Place so it does look to be the same person.

[trish1120]

Thanks for that ShaunJ,
I wondered if you can find the Christening of William Cullen c 1838, St Pancras, Middlesex.

Trish

[ShaunJ]

No, I couldn't see a baptism for William.

There is this birth registration in Q/e Sep 1838:

CULLEN  William     St Pancras  vol 1 page 202

I am wondering if he was the son of Charlotte (or perhaps Elizabeth). It is odd that the 1851 census doesn't state the relationship of William to Alice.

[trish1120]

Thanks for trying and yes the 1851 Census is odd.