Author Topic: John & Alexander Cameron - born Kirkcaldy/Leith  (Read 3185 times)

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John & Alexander Cameron - born Kirkcaldy/Leith
« on: Tuesday 22 March 11 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I'm researching my Great Great grandfather John Cameron. He shows on the 1851 census at Hill Street Kirkcaldy aged 5 living with his parents John (born Pathhead, Fifeshire)  and Elizabeth (born Tain). I have not been able to find a birth certificate for him or any marriage record for his parents as it's pre 1855 and nothing showing on OPR.

The family moved to Edinburgh and he marries in South Leith on 22/7/1870 to Helen Ramsay. His mother's maiden name is listed as Innes on the marriage record. His occupation is listed a joiner.

The mystery I am trying to resolve is why and when he went to Hong Kong. We know he and his son Alexander must have been in Hong Kong as we have photos from a Hong Kong studio. He appears on the 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901 census all in South Leith. His son Alexander also appears on all these census records (bar 1871 not born)  but in 1901 is a patient in Leith Hospital. John had time to have plenty children (9 are listed on 1891 census) and Alexander had 10 children between 1891 and 1914.

So does anyone possibly have any ideas or info about these two and why or when they were in Hong Kong? From photos we guess it was probably in the 1890s. Perhaps Alexander caught some foreign illness and that's why he was in hospital?

Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

(Will post on Edinburgh thread too!)

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Cowe, Cameron, Storie/Storey, Powell,
McCaskell, Kane/Cain, Howden, Duncan

For OH: East Lothian Ayrshire
Baird, Kyle, Reilly, Routledge
Mackie,Wallace, Wood, Dickson, Burrell, Brown, Darling

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Re: John & Alexander Cameron - born Kirkcaldy/Leith
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 March 11 16:19 GMT (UK) »
hi  :)

the new beta search on the IGI familysearch has -
john cameron marriage to elizabeth innes 12th feb 1839 kirkcaldy fife

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Re: John & Alexander Cameron - born Kirkcaldy/Leith
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 March 11 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you that's a great bit of new info for me!
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McCaskell, Kane/Cain, Howden, Duncan

For OH: East Lothian Ayrshire
Baird, Kyle, Reilly, Routledge
Mackie,Wallace, Wood, Dickson, Burrell, Brown, Darling

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Re: John & Alexander Cameron - born Kirkcaldy/Leith
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 March 11 18:00 GMT (UK) »
there is a matching marriage date for st cuthberts parish edinburgh for a couple with those names
perhaps the marriage was announced in both of the parishes that the couple
came from  :-\
did john have an older brother william ?
william cameron born 8th aug. 1842 st cuthberts edinburgh midlothian
parents john cameron and elizabeth innes(IGI)

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Re: John & Alexander Cameron - born Kirkcaldy/Leith
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 March 11 18:13 GMT (UK) »
I have just checked the census record I have and yes John did have a brother called William and unlike the rest of the family he was born in Edinburgh! He was 8 in 1851 making 1842/3 the likely birth year.

I am amazed you have found this so quickly - what is the secret??
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Mackie,Wallace, Wood, Dickson, Burrell, Brown, Darling

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Re: John & Alexander Cameron - born Kirkcaldy/Leith
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 March 11 19:25 GMT (UK) »
no secret - just practice , bitter experience , and lots of help and tips from all
sorts of people  :)
most of them are members of Rootschat   ;D

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Re: John & Alexander Cameron - born Kirkcaldy/Leith
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 March 11 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Just further to my last posting (On the Edinburgh Section), here is what I have on John Cameron...

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Re: John & Alexander Cameron - born Kirkcaldy/Leith
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 March 11 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Looks like you've done much better than me on the OPR search! This will be great to add the extra info. Have sent you a PM with my email so hope to hear from you soon and can send you the photos.
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Cowe, Cameron, Storie/Storey, Powell,
McCaskell, Kane/Cain, Howden, Duncan

For OH: East Lothian Ayrshire
Baird, Kyle, Reilly, Routledge
Mackie,Wallace, Wood, Dickson, Burrell, Brown, Darling

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Re: John & Alexander Cameron - born Kirkcaldy/Leith
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 March 11 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Just noticed I have different parents for John Cameron - from census returns. We'll need to compare notes!

EDIT - just ignore that last comment - looking at wrong John Cameron! We do have the same parents down!
East Lothian/Midlothian
Cowe, Cameron, Storie/Storey, Powell,
McCaskell, Kane/Cain, Howden, Duncan

For OH: East Lothian Ayrshire
Baird, Kyle, Reilly, Routledge
Mackie,Wallace, Wood, Dickson, Burrell, Brown, Darling