Bott - West Mersea

[hill18]

Hi, My ancestors Samuel Bott and his wife Hannah had several children baptised at StPeter & StPauls church West Mersea, between 1716 and 1729 but I can't find their marriage record.  I've checked a number of other local parishes but can't find either their marriage or his baptism.  Can anyone suggest where they may have come from?
Does anyone else have this family in their tree?

[t mo]

have you looked in seax for the record?
trevor

[hill18]

Hi T Mo, yes, that's where I got the info about Samuel and Hannah's children but I have checked the online records for West Mersea and several other parishes round about but can't find any more info.  I most need the marriage so I can get Hannah's maiden name.

[t mo]

just had a quick look in family search and most records for bott seem to be in the midlands and further north found this one for a samuel bott marrying a hannah wright  1 may 1714 kirton notts it may be that,s where it would pay you to look as well if it were to be right why in that time line someone from up north got as far as little old mersea island is very strange as the main industry then would have been the oysters and fishing , some farming and shooting on the marshes oh and we mustn,t forget the smuggling or was samuel a revenue man the dreaded enemy 
trevor

[hill18]

Thanks for that t mo.  I'll check familysearch tonight when I get home to see if I can find any sign of this couple having a family in Kirton.  It certainly is a long way, it must be 160 odd miles from Mersea, but stranger things have happened.  I'll see if I can find any evidence of Samuel being a revenue man, that would certainly explain the move but then what would he be doing in Kirton?  Anyway it's given me something to check into.  Thanks again.

[hill18]

No, I just found out that this Samuel and Hannah had several children born in Kirton at the same time my Samuel and Hannah were having their children in Mersea so can't be the ones.  Back to square one.  Thanks anyway.

[Essbee]

Hi, joined Rootschat recently, came across your enquiry.
In 1995 I was contacted by a Canadian Bott descendant (he was at the time VP ofthe Quebec Family History Society). We exchanged info, to my advantage.
Below is an extract re S & H Bott of W Mersey.

Known children of Joseph Bott & Sarah Potter:
1: Rachel .....
2:Joseph .....
3: Sarah .....
4: Rebecca .....
5: William .....
6: Susannah .....
7: Samuel Bott was born November 26, 1693 (Colchester Monthly Meeting)
He died in West Mersey, Essex in 1729
Samuel Bott married in 1715 Hannah Webb 1692-  the daughter of Charles Webb & Anne Durrell in either Colchester St Peter or Peldon Parish Church according to the Marriage Licence dated December 22, 1715 from the Bishop of London's Commissary Court - Essex & Herts division. Both couples indicated that they were residents of West Mersey.

Known children of Samuel Bott & Hanna Webb:
1: Elizabeth Bott was born April 4, 1721 Baptized April 30, 1721 W Mersey.
She was buried September 25, 1808 in W Mersey.
She married on July 6, 1742 in Colchester St Mary Magdalene William Overall.
William Overall c1720-1763 was buried May 13, 1763 in W Mersey.
2: Hannah Bott  child buried Nov. 24, 1721 in W Mersey.
3: Hannah Bott  child buried Apr.  24, 1726 in W Mersey
As most, if not all Essex Botts were Quakers they are unlikely to appear in parish records.
Hope this is of use.    Essbee

 

[hill18]

Yes!!!! Thank you! Thank you!.   I've searched through the online images on SEAX for hours and hours trying to find the marriage of Samuel Bott and Hannah.  Now you've given me that and his parents in one hit.  Very grateful.  I checked on SEAX for this marriage but it doesn't appear to be in Colchester St Peter so assume it must be in Peldon but the Peldon records are not on-line, only on fiche, but even then don't begin till 1725.  There is apparently a reference to an "old register" to 1724 which I assume is missing.  Looks like we'll just have to rely on the licence data. 
I'll now go through the SEAX images to try to find Hannah Webb's baptism.  By the way those records show Elizabeth Bott's birth as 12th April 1721 not 4th - minor point.
There is so much info in your message, it will take me a while to digest it all.  Will reply again once I've done that.  Thanks again for your help.

[hill18]

Hi Essbee,
I found two Hannah Webbs on newfamilysearch.org, one chr. 24 Jul 1692 in West Mersea,Essex, the other chr. 1703 in Colchester Quaker-Nc, Essex.   Newfamilysearch has the 1692 one married to a Matthias Courtnell in 1723 in Colchester. but I think this may be incorrect.  I think it more likely that the 1692 Hannah is married to our Samuel Bott (married in 1715 aged 23, first child born 1716) and the 1703 Hannah married to Matthias Courtnell (in 1723 aged 20)   
If it were the other way round then Hannah 1703 would only be 12 when she married in 1715 and age 13 when the first child was born.  Not totally impossible but unlikely.
If I'm right then newfamilysearch has given us several more generations back.

What do you think? 
Regards, Robin