Rifleman Inn

[yvon-3]

Hi,
         I am trying to find out if there was a pub called the Rifleman Inn on Chester Street Shrewsbury in 1891.Or perhaps somewhere else in Shrewsbury. My Great Grandfather Edward James was a Licence Victualer on the 1891 census. It gives his address as 10 Chester Street ,St Mary ,Shrewsbury. RG12 P.2109 Folio 28 pg 9 . It looks to me like Rifleman Inn has been written faintly in the address colum. If possible could someone have a look at this census and let me know if they think it says Rifleman Inn or wether it says something else.

Thanks I would be greatful for any help.

Yvon-3

[The Mc]

There was definitely a pub in Shrewsbury called the Rifleman Inn as the 1891 census street record from the National Archives indicates as below. Scroll down "nearby street" until you come to lots of Shrewsbury grouped together. Then scroll down "dwellings" and you will find the pub.......

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:amckOYt0xkUJ:yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php%3Ftitle%3DPlace:Atcham_Registration_District,_1891_Census_Street_Index_P-R+shrewsbury+pub+rifleman+inn+1891&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk

[yvon-3]

Hi,
         Thank you for your help.
        Is there anyone out there who has a photo of the Rifleman Inn in Shrewsbury. I have been searching on the net but no luck so far. It probably not very hopeful but it is worth a daft ask.

Thanks again

Yvon-3

[Lloydy]

I agree that the Rifleman Inn is written very faintly on the census image.

Chester Street has been redeveloped many times over the years.....the Inn will be long gone.

The only place that might be able to help with a photo is the Shropshire Archives - may be worth a phone call
http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/archives.nsf


p.s. I see that Edward was born in Kerry, Montgomeryshire.   I have a line of James from Tregynon and would be happy to swap info to see if there's any connection

[yvon-3]

Hi Lloydy,
                 It would be great to find someone with a link to my Great Grandfather Edward James. I haven't gone back very far with the James family it being quite a common Welsh name. The Earliest James family members are as follows:-

David James b. 1781 In Kerry. Wife Mary. In 1841 & 1851 they had a 144 acre farm at Glanbechan near Garthgellin. They had 6 children the eldest was my Great Grandfather Edward b. abt 1828 in Kerry. In 1861 Edward and His wife to be, worked at The Moat which was the Vicarage at Kerry. Edward was the coachman and his wife Leah Walker b.1827 in Moreton Say ,Shropshire was the Housekeeper. They had 5 children all born in Kerry. Edward had then become a farmer by 1871 and had Penarron Farm in Kerry. The youngest of their children was my Grandmother Clara Charlotte b.1868 at Penarron Farm. The family moved to Shrewsbury by 1881 and he changed his occupation and became a barrman at an Inn. By 1891 he was the Licencee of the Rifleman Inn.

That is just about all I have on the James family. How far is Tregynon from Kerry ? Are they quite close ? I don't know Wales very well. I used to visit my Aunt when I was a child and I still have a cousin who lives at Risca, But I don't have a clue where these places are.

If you need any more info let me know.
Regards
Yvonne

[s.g.d.]

hello Yvonne,

I think that the Rifleman might have been next to,and owned by Southam's Brewery.All of this land was cleared to make way for the Gateway education centre in the early 1980's.

I will have a search and let you know.

s.g.d.

[yvon-3]

Hi.s.g.d.
             Thank you for your reply. Any information would be great.

Thanks again.

Yvonne

[s.g.d.]

hello again,

The Rifleman was indeed at number 10 Chester Street.

In 1895 and 1899 an Edward Sadler was the landlord.

s.g.d.

[yvon-3]

Hi s.g.d
              My Great Grandfather Edward James was the Landlord of the Rifleman in 1891. He wasn't there for very long. He died in 1892. My cousin found a book which Lists the landlords and it also says that it was previously called the Coach and Horses and was known as Rifleman between 1870 ans 1916. One of the Landlords used to put planks on the floor to benefit his customers during flooding.

Thanks for your help.

Yvon