Spencer & Boyle family, Leeds

[J Gom W]

Elizabeth Spencer (nee Johnson; married James Boyle; then married Richard Spencer) refuses to die!  Born c1856.  Anyone come across her?

[genjen]

Hello and welcome to Rootschat,

Have you found her in 1901 and 1911 censuses?

Jen

[J Gom W]

Yes, she's safely there on both!

[genjen]

Ok, so that has narrowed it down. Do you have any later points of reference for her? Addresses maybe?

Is she still in Yorkshire in 1911?

[Evie]

Hi

Welcome from me too.

Can you tell us the reference number for the 1901 census please?

evie

[genjen]

If I have the correct entry, 1911 has her year of birth as c1859.

There is a death in Leeds for Elizabeth Spencer, aged 68

Jun 1928 Leeds/9b/515

Have you checked this one out?

[J Gom W]

Am 99% certain she was born in 1856 (from previous research) and have checked NBI 3 for her death.  Don't want to order a wrong certificate (have done so for her once already). 
She was in Leeds in 1911 and her history shows she'd been in area from age of 5 - so don't think she would have moved.  1901 census (ED24 Household 134) has her as born in Scotland, 1861 - she wasn't.
As you see, I'm really struggling!

[Evie]

Hi

Do you have her marriage certificate to James Boyle? This would give her father's name and occupation, hopefully, so you could pin her down as a child. I notice there are quite a few Elizabeth Johnson's born in the Leeds district. 1855. 1856, 2 x 1859, 1861.

However having said this, if she is not sure of her age then whoever registered the death won't be certain either. The death Jen found is a good possibility. Have you an idea when Richard died? If he was after the date given by Jen then I think he would most likely to have registered the death and you could ask the local registry office to check that before ordering the certificate.

evie

[genjen]

Evie,

You have just said exactly what I was about to say, so I'll add my agreement to your suggestions.

Jen