The Village, Kings Norton

[Yegvard]

Hi

I'm trying to put families in to specific houses around The Green in Kings Norton.  Time frame is around 1840 - 1851.  Does anyone have any details of specific properties in relation to any other property?  Perhaps a deed or a will.

I have certain families located in certain groups of houses, but I'm trying to do better than that.   There seemed to be a lot of moving so some one must have some info.

Cheers

Mike

[salliejo]

if you contact whsmith (booksellers) they do a localised history book about the green kings norton with lots of photos.  i live 2miles from the green. another contact is our local celebrity historian carl chinn.  he is very well known for his local historical ramblings in the local sunday paper called the sunday mercury and a daily paper called the birmingham mail (formerly the evening mail).  Carl might have his own web site. 

[StintonLomas]

Hi
I have just tried to look up "The Green" in the '61 census on 192.com but it doesn't recognize it as an address.  There are quite a few ****** Green type address's so do you have another name to go with Green?

I know you want earlier but having some names from '61 may help to locate it in the '51  census 

[Yegvard]

Hi Both,

I already have both photographic books on Kings Norton.  And have trawled the libraries already, and have a list of photos not in the books.

I have a copy of the Tithe map and the apportionment for the actual village.  It is the actual village which is known as The Green.  The plan was to put everyone from the 1841 census into an actual house and then have a photo or a sketch of the building.   
The problem is that subsequent censuses are less and less helpful.
 And there appears to be a above average rate of moving between houses.    Presumably rented accommodation.

Hence my request for property information.  I have a complete list of householders from 1841, 1851, 1871 & 1881 and good contacts for the 1861, where needed.  Studying the different censuses the enumerators started at different points and went different ways around The Green!

For those with an interest in Kings Norton I suggest doing a Google search on "Kings Norton" & "The Green" or "Saracens Head" and then clicking on Image at the top of the screen.

Mike

P.S.  The reason for all this was a family HANDS living there.  They had the house on the corner of The Green, now Lloyds Bank.  They are related to the CLULEEs and the PRITCHETTs.  Anyone out there?

[salliejo]

the  possible reason for a high turnover in accommodation is that a canal runs just off the green and goes alongside the Travellers Inn and under Lazy Hill, so the area may have been used by waterfolk.

[bobblehat]

hi ya.....my name is Jan......from ESSEX

SUMMERFIELD........Mary and John parents William
and Sarah........John was born in 1818......long ago....
but had farm in Hay Green.....Northfield, in Kings Norton
any old maps or sites that are free I can check this out...
Is there a town hall at Kings Norton ?
How can I find who owned what fields in 1881

[Yegvard]

Hi Bobblehat,

You could be lucky.  The 1873 Returns for Landowners in Worcestershire are indexed on line and free.  Go to http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/datafiles/landtaxsearch.html
Enter Summerfield and submit.  Your relly could be quite wealthy.

To see the Tithe Map (around 1838) you'll have to go to Birmingham Central Library.  The National Archives may also have a copy.  However, it's not a lot of use without the Tithe Apportionments, which gives the owner, field number, value of income, and occupier - sometimes.  A few years ago somebody redrew a large Tithe Map of Kings Norton, can't remember it's location is though.  Ask at Kings Norton library.

The First series of OS maps is online & free http://www.old-maps.co.uk/, but is fairly low quality.  Quick, but encourages you to purchase high quality prints.

There are some records in Kings Norton Library, but most are in Birmingham.  (Naturally just a few Kings Norton records are in Worcester, since KN used to be in Worcestershire.)  And diocesan records are in Worcester.

Hope that helps

Mike

[bobblehat]

      you are brilliant.....good man....hope to speak more to you mike....JAN
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how do u know all this ?    bly

[bobblehat]

DO U KNOW....OLDHAM COTTAGES NORTHFIELD KINGS
NORTON ?   PLEASE