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Re: Two children, same name. Just a tip
« Reply #9 on: Friday 18 March 11 19:35 GMT (UK) »
My gr father, Robert Henry b. 1874, was the 2nd to be named thus.The first R.H. was b. 1873 and died age 1. 3rd baby Hugh Alexander b. and d. 1876.
Next H.A. b. and lived in 1876. 5th and 6th babies were called William,one died and one lived! Puzzled me for some time 8)
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Re: Two children, same name. Just a tip
« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 March 11 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Billyblue---- I wonder if the name Robert was so sad for them after other  babies named Robert
had died that they were superstitious about the name  and fearful for the new baby.

If so it was kind of them to give another reason to the young mum, so as not to worry her.

It is a possibility.   Viktoria.

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Re: Two children, same name. Just a tip
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 19 March 11 07:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the nice sentiment Viktoria, but no.
Some of dad's siblings hadn't talked to us for years because of this!!
Everyone in the family was surprised when I unearthed all these Roberts.
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Re: Two children, same name. Just a tip
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 19 March 11 13:06 GMT (UK) »
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I have also had in two separate sides of the family an Eliza & Elizabeth as children without any of them dying.

One of my 2 x g.grandfather's had 3 children called Eliza, Elizabeth and guess what Eliza Elizabeth.  What was that all about.  Neither his wife nor mother were called Elizabeth or any similar name.  At least the sons all had different names.

Lizzie


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Re: Two children, same name. Just a tip
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 19 March 11 16:24 GMT (UK) »
I have a family with two Ellens, one of which I knew nothing about until I found the grave and headstone of the parents where they were both listed. Ellen 1, born Q4 1851, died June 1860, Ellen 2 born Q1 1862, died Dec 1874.

So sad to think they lost them both so young, but the eldest son went on to name one of his daughters Ellen a few years later.
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Re: Two children, same name. Just a tip
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 19 March 11 16:45 GMT (UK) »
As others have mentioned, I've got a fair few large families where one of the elder children has died and a younger one has been given the same name - in one case two of my great aunts, my grandfather's younger sisters, born only a year apart.  Knowing that mourning one child gives the name to the other is always sad.

The one that's given me the most hassle (so far) in trying to separate are not siblings, but cousins.    Two brothers, both living close to each other in Preston in Lancashire.  Both have daughters born 3 months apart, one in late 1841 and the other in early 1842.   Both girls are named Margaret, , as it seems both sons wished to name their first daughter after their own mother.   As the fathers are brothers both girls have the same christian name and the same surname, and live about 3 streets apart.  So far, so good.

7 years later, the younger of the two brothers, who had moved his family away, is widowed.  His children are separated amongst his family and that of his late wife,  and the eldest girl goes back to her Uncle, her father's elder brother, and his wife.   Maybe it was thought that it would be nice for her to grow up with a cousin of almost the same age, though I still think it's sad that she went on her own so was separated from her younger sisters.      I'm sure everyone did what they though was best at the time.

But for me, 3 generations on, trying to track those two girls, first cousins, through the census - same christian name, same surname, same address, same age, same place of birth!    Got there in the end though...
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Re: Two children, same name. Just a tip
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 20 March 11 01:28 GMT (UK) »
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I have also had in two separate sides of the family an Eliza & Elizabeth as children without any of them dying.

One of my 2 x g.grandfather's had 3 children called Eliza, Elizabeth and guess what Eliza Elizabeth.  What was that all about.  Neither his wife nor mother were called Elizabeth or any similar name.  At least the sons all had different names.

Lizzie

Should have said all the girls were alive at the same time.

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Re: Two children, same name. Just a tip
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 20 March 11 01:42 GMT (UK) »
Makes you realize how all the different nick names for one long 'actual' name came about though doesn't it - Bess, Betty, Lizzie, Beth, Liza, Lillibet,  etc etc - they were just separating the girls!!!    ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Two children, same name. Just a tip
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 20 March 11 03:18 GMT (UK) »
 ;D
Well on my John and Mary SMITH line, there's John's first marriage (Mary was Mrs S #2), and his daughters included Mary, Mary Jane and Mary Ann ... all found alive and living at home with their parents in 1861 census.  Then there's his second family (remember Mrs S #2 was Mary !) and the second family's girls include yet more Mary girls ... including another Mary Jane and another Mary Ann... 

On his d.c. all the girls are named in full and with their 'nick' names too ... and so is the given name of the first Mrs S... and it was also Mary. 
So there was Mary (Mrs S # 1), with her daughters Mary, Mary Jane, Mary Ann
and there was Mary (Mrs S #2) (she was noted as Mary Ann) with her daughters  Mary Eliza, Mary Jane (Ginnie), Mary Ann (Annie) ...
I presume each of them would know who was meant to answer if John Smith called out "Mary, come here please"
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