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Marriage Look Up please, Chester
« on: Friday 18 March 11 07:05 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find the marriage details for my great grandparents.
The only marriage I have found was in December 1893, in Chester of a Thomas Beech and a Rosa Mary Jones which are the correct names, but the time and location are confusing. Both lived in Wrexham and would have had 5 children by the time of their marriage.
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Re: Marriage Look Up please, Chester
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 March 11 09:06 GMT (UK) »
I see them in 1891 with the five children.   the eldest is Elizabeth Ann 12 and the next is Albert 7.   They may have got married in 1893 (found on ChesterBMD) rather late which explains perhaps why it was in Chester.
Did you get the marriage cert? 
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Re: Marriage Look Up please, Chester
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 March 11 09:12 GMT (UK) »
They are certainly living together as man and wife in 1891, although Rosa Mary is down as Floree Mary?!

Reference RG12/4619/37/20
4 Mount Pleasant, Wrexham

Beech, Thomas  Head  M  34  Corn Merchants Carter  b St Martins, Shropshire
Beech, Floree Mary  Wife  F  33  b Wrexham
Beech, Elizabeth Ann  Daughter  F  12  Scholar  b Wrexham
Beech, Albert Henry  Son  M  7  Scholar  b Wrexham
Beech, Rosa Mary  Daughter  F  5  Scholar  b Wrexham
Beech, Frederick James  Son  M  3  Scholar  b Wrexham
Beech, Florance Emly  Daughter  F  1  b Wrexham

The family are also together in 1901, with an extra 5 children.
Reference RG13/5225/65/6

The 1911 census (not allowed to give details!) suggests a marriage c 1878, but I can't find it.
Possibly they didn't actually marry?

Also, Chester is only 8 or 9 miles from Wrexham, and in another country(!) so maybe they legitimised their partnership there?
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Re: Marriage Look Up please, Chester
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 March 11 09:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The marriage is on Familysearch Cheshire Parish registers
 
26th Dec 1893 St John, Chester

Thomas Beech 36yo single father William Beech
Rosa Mary Jones 36yo  single father Thomas Jones

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html?datestamp=1203804645046#c=fs%3A1614792&p=collectionDetails

Andy



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Re: Marriage Look Up please, Chester
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 March 11 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Silvery, that is them in 1891 and Albert is my grandfather. Thomas Beech was from Shropshire, to the South of Wrexham and Rosa was from Wrexham itself, so to go north 11 miles would make sense if you are trying to keep quiet the fact you weren't married sooner.
Thanks also KGarrard. Rosa is a bit of a problem. On my grandfather's birth certificate her name is Rosa Jones and I have found a Rosa Jones born in Wrexham in 1858. On the 1891 census she is Floree Mary and 1901 she is Rosa Mary.
And thanks to Andycand for the additional info. It sounds like the right couple so I think I will go ahead and order a copy of the marriage certificate for confirmation. Father's name William for Thomas is correct but I haven't found a Thomas Jones yet as in 1871 it appears Rosa's mother had remarried.

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Re: Marriage Look Up please, Chester
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 March 11 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Is this not Rose in 1871?

Reference RG10/5657/106/6
Yorke Street, Wrexham Regis, Wrexham

Evans, Evan  Head  M  31  Pavior  b Newtown, Montgomeryshire
Jones, Jane  Step-daughter  F  18  Bookbinder - Sewer  b Wrexham
Jones, Rosa  Step-daughter  F  12  b Wrexham
-, Ann  Wife  F  40  b Wrexham
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Re: Marriage Look Up please, Chester
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 March 11 15:14 GMT (UK) »
I believe it is her, hence my reference to not having found a Thomas Jones yet. Until Andycand responded I didn't have the name Thomas Jones to look for.
This 1871 census, plus 1891 and 1901 showed she never having moved home more than 3-400 yards. Yorke Street (1871) leads away from Wrexham town centre, into Mount Street (1901) and Mount Pleasant (1891) was just beyond the far end of Mount street and were demolished between 1891 and 1895 to make way for the Wrexham - Ellesmere railway line.

Dave 
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