Moses and Esther Palestrant in Leeds

[thecohens]

Isaac Joseph Hoffman, born December 12th 1895, married Rose Joseph and had at least one child. Mervyn at Cape Town in February 4th 1936-1988

There is someone on Ancestry (Hoffman Tree) with Isaac as a relative. ...

I have not been able to turn up this particular Hoffman Tree at Ancestry, or a Mervyn Hoffman except one who went to Australia.   Can you help me find the tree?

Thanks

[JeannieR]

Hi.....

I just put in Isaac Joseph Hoffman , year of birth 1895 , Manchester in to the search. Then clicked on family trees, and he came up about the 7th down the list "The Hoffman Tree "

Good Luck

[thecohens]

Thanks JeannieR!   I had to do some fiddling with my nonstandard browser, but did finally find that.

I also found the marriage of Marcus Noah Hoffman to Polly Cohen in April 1922 by searching Hoffman at the Kaplan Center Jewish Site for South Africa.   Abraham's naturalization and Annie's death may also be listed there, not sure if the records are theirs.  Am hoping connecting the with the Hoffman Tree owner will get me in touch with family who will know more.

http://chrysalis.its.uct.ac.za/CGI/cgi_RootWeb.exe?entry_point=Marriages

Thanks so much again!

[JeannieR]

Hi.

What a fantastic site ! I have been playing with it for a hour.

I did find Annie's death age 86 , and burial 1 / 7 1962 at Pinelands 1 Cemetery , Cape Town
Section 4b grave 4662. No other details......

However !

Abraham Hoffman
Avraham ben Mordecai Noah / Grave 4661

Annie Hoffman
Haya bat Yitzchak Yosef / Grave 4662

Marcus Noah Hoffman
Mordecai Noach ben Avraham / Grave 10845

I got this information from Jewish Cemetery, Cape Town Administration site
You can contact them at  exec@uoscape.co.za

I think this means we are still looking for the Palestrant connection ?

JeannieR

[thecohens]

I did find Annie's death age 86 , and burial 1 / 7 1962 at Pinelands 1 Cemetery , Cape Town
Section 4b grave 4662.
...
Annie Hoffman
Haya bat Yitzchak Yosef / Grave 4662

...
I got this information from Jewish Cemetery, Cape Town Administration site
You can contact them at  exec@uoscape.co.za

I think this means we are still looking for the Palestrant connection ?

How cool!  No, these are likely to be my family.  Isaac Joseph's birth certificate will be a better source to confirm that we do indeed have the right Hoffman family.

Yitzchak Yosef  translates to Isaac Joseph, Joseph is still in the name, and if this is the right Hoffman family, it gives me Moses Palestrant's father's full Hebrew name.  It also tells us exactly who Annie and Abraham's son Isaac Joseph was named after.

Thanks for finding the cemetery site.  I am going to explore, it may help with a lot of my other research.

[cohenvernonportner]

I am quite excited !!

Looking to ascertain Jack Cohen's parentage I came across this family

1891 census
49 Hope Street, Leeds

Hyman COHEN / head / age 30 / Travelling Jeweller / born Russia
Betsy Cohen / wife / age 29 / born Russia
JACOB Cohen / son / age 10 / born Russia
Owe Cohen / daughter / age 7 / born Leeds
Abraham Cohen / son / age 5 / born Leeds
Joseph Cohen / son / age 3 / born Leeds
JANE POTESTRANT / mother in law /married / age 46 / born Poland

The actual image is very good, and it looks to me as if the first T, is in fact a L
Although it states Jacob was born in Russia, there is birth registration for a Jacob Issacher Cohen in Leeds at that time.......

Wow, very good!  Hmmm, I guess we wait to see the other Jacob Cohen's birth cert to see if this little fellow is Jacob Issachar or just Jacob.   I recall seeing this Potestrant before and not placing her. I wonder who and where her husband is but I guess we should wait and see the certificate.

But it looks like you are on to something big.  Too bad all the records where my family was from in Makow were destroyed thru 1897, it would make it a whole lot easier if they had survived to research this.

I recognise some of these names please get in touch