Can anyone help me get further back, please ?

[Annie65115]

Hmm - lots of Hudsons but no relevant ones to John+Ann or John+Mary.

I checked on just John - 1790-1810, it seems there were just 4 Hudson families with father's name John having babies: John + Christian in Notts St Mary, John +Millicent ditto; John + Eliz. In Eastwood and also in Arnold. (but remember not al parishes are represented on this cd)

1810-1830: 1 child, John and Ann, Newark (1826) - John is listed as a traveller; 6 to John and Ann in Skegby (FWK, 1822 on);  then other families in Radford, Stapleford, Sutton cum Lound, Worksop, Eastwood, Notts St Marys, Clayworth, Babworth - all with father John but no Anns or Marys as mother.

None of the Johns is listeed as an ag lab either - FWK, lacemaker, butcher, blacksmith, farmer, and the traveller as mentioned.

It doesn't take a moment to check so don't worry about time, the search facility is pretty easy to use. Do you want further details of any of the above? Or any other searches doing? (other names, marraiges, burials?)

[greyingrey]

Gosh, Annie....thanks so much...expected you to come back & box my ears ! ! I still think the John & Mary in Shepshed & the John & Anns in Kingston on Soar/Cossington are my best bets, so I'm going to see if I can find out the names of their children & see what I can find. IF you have time, you could maybe check out the John & Ann in Kingston on Trent....John was born there & they're still there on the census, so they probably didn't travel as much as others.

Would William's baptism tell me his father's occupation ? Must admit I've just assumed John was an ag lab because William was & I think it was likely he stayed in the countryside. William's son, Thomas, however, became a grocer on Wilford St in Nottm

[greyingrey]

I'm hoping I may have solved this one....maybe staring me in the face all the time. On the 1841 census, William is living at Ruddington, Nottingham , as head of the household & he has a male lodger, John Hudson, who is listed as having been born in 1826. I've checked this out & he was born in Kingston on Soar, so I'm wondering (hoping ?) that this indicates that William's father was the John Hudson who lived in Kingston.

[greyingrey]

Annie...if you're around at all....could you please check your Notts records sometime (is Kingston on Soar in there ?) & see if you can find the names of the children born to John & Ann Hudson (married, I think 1801)

Thank you

[greyingrey]

OK....I've been doing some more digging & I'm typing this down for my sake as much as anyone's (because of a disability, I can't write)

The question is....who were the parents of William Hudson, baptised in Shepshed, Leics in 1800 ?

Four lots of candidates

John Hudson & Mary Alt married in Shepshed in 1794. The baptism record of Mary seems to show that 2 Alt daughters were baptised on the same occasion....Mary & Ann. Is it at all possible that it was one child named Mary Ann/Ann Mary ? John & Mary went on to have more children. (so Mary didn't die early in the marriage to be replaced by an Ann)..the name Mary is used on every occasion.. On the other hand, I can't see that John & Mary had a William & I can't find out what happened to Ann Alt....I've looked into a few Ann Alts/Aults/Olds etc, but the ages/places of birth are wrong.


James Hudson & Ann Hutchinson, married in Shepshed in 1799. Think I can count them out because they had a William baptised in 1801 & another baptised in 1813.

John Hudson & Ann Morris married in Cossington, Leics at a suitable date....they stayed in Cossington as far as I can see. Not impossible if they made a trip to Shepshed for some reason. Having problems finding baptisms of their children....will have to carry on searching.

John Hudson & Ann Jakes married in Kegworth, Leics in 1801. What counts against this is that, according to the marriage entry, they were living in different parishes at the time of the marriage (John in Kingston on Soar, Notts & Ann in Kegworth, Leics. John was born in the 1770s in Kingston & stayed there as far as I can see....another John Hudson was born there in the 1790s. I've found the birth of a William Hudson in Kegworth, Leics in 1812...parents John & Ann.

Both Mary Alt & Ann Jakes came from Kegworth, but, as far as I can see, Mary was always listed as Mary. This baptism of a William Hudson in Kegworth in 1812 could have been the son of the John Hudson born in the 1790's ....

Back to the grindstone !

[Annie65115]

It sounds a bit of a nightmare but at least I think you've summed it all up nicely there.

I wasn't able to look at the Shepshed records when I was as LRO last weekend but I don't know that it would have added to the total sum of knowledge if I had 

As far as my Mary goes, I rather suspect she may have been the illegitimate Mary bapt in 1819 and that she made up a convenient father for her marraige cert. I don't think I'll ever really know -- and maybe she didn't either!

[greyingrey]

Don't give up, Annie....I'm going to contact the Leicester Family History Society again....remember there's some brave soul researching "Hudsons in Leicestershire"....so maybe they have a bit of an overview.

No....no point searching the Notts records, I think.

The problem is, there aren't many clues in the first names. All the Hudsons I'm looking at seem to use the same series of names...think they're all related SOMEWHERE.

Unfortunately my nearest LDS centre would cost me about 20 pounds to get to for a return trip & is only open for 3 hours 3 times a week.

[greyingrey]

I suspect we've got 2 lots of John & Ann Hudsons here whose main locations are Kingston on Soar, Notts & Kegworth, Leics. I've located a Kegworth homepage & someone posted on there (don't know when), saying they were researching the Hudson family. They have John Hudson (from Kingston) & Ann Jakes (from Kegworth) & say they believe they moved from Kingston to Kegworth in the early 1800s & listing  a series of births to John & Ann Hudson in Kegworth then (including the William baptised there in 1812)

I've got a John & Ann Hudson in Kingston who have 5 children, all born in Kingston ( & no William among them, which leaves the way open for them to have a William baptised in Shepshed...the dates don't clash), the dates of whom would seem to rule out the idea that they're the same John & Ann Hudson.  Unfortunately, as John Hudson & Ann Jakes married a year after my William was baptised, & they seem to have been living in separate parishes then, it looks as though I'm the one who's got to look for a different couple..

I've emailed the person who posted on the Kegworth site..

[greyingrey]

Just to make life super-complicated, I've found a John & Ann Hudson living in Oadby, Leics, on the 1841 census & they have a son, William, of the correct age, still living at home . I think I've done the correct tracing back to William in Ruddington, though (who said he was born in Shepshed)....luckily, my  g grandfather had the distinctive name of Herbert Hart Hudson, so it was relatively easy to get back to William.