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Re: Victorian Pioneer Lookup
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 12 March 11 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Could you please have a look if the last one is George in 1876?...Is it George Wells or George Manton?..

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Re: Victorian Pioneer Lookup
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 12 March 11 11:42 GMT (UK) »

Manton births   Father - Elijah  Mother- Matilda Herbert

1859  Elijah Herbt   E Cwood  #10592
1861  Harry Herbert   W Melbh  #11757
1864  Louisa Matilda  Fitz  #1580
1868  Philip Wells  Rmond  #11652
1870  Eveline Maria  Collingwood  #8064
1874  Arthur Wells   Sth Melb  #3607
1876  George Wells  Melb  #10664

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Re: Victorian Pioneer Lookup
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 12 March 11 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Now im totally confused...lol...Wonder why they have Wells as the middle name as we are ancestors of George so dont know now if we are actually Manton & not Wells... Im sure from Philip onwards she had them with Henry Wells, as he is listed as father on death certs, but was maybe still married to Manton so listed Manton as father??

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Re: Victorian Pioneer Lookup
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 12 March 11 11:59 GMT (UK) »
NSW births

Father: Henry P
Mother: Matilda
Ethel M Wells. Reg: 6073/1880, Paddington.
Walter J Wells. Reg: 7542/1883, Paddington.

Father: Henry
Mother: Matilda.
Charles Wells. Reg: 5081/1878, Paddington.

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Re: Victorian Pioneer Lookup
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 March 11 11:59 GMT (UK) »
Matilda Wells wife of H. P. Wells died 2 October 1909 in Leichardt, NSW age 68.

Children listed as both Wells and Manton.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15180424?searchTerm="matilda wells
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15278703?searchTerm="matilda wells

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Re: Victorian Pioneer Lookup
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 12 March 11 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear...........confusing indeed!

Perhaps good old Elijah did a runner to WA and
Matilda stayed in Victoria and made babies with Mr Wells  ;D

According to what Gerry found  Elijah was still in Victoria in 1875
Hi,

Melbourne Directory 1862.
Manton, Elijah, 26 Derby-street, E. C.

Melbourne Directory 1865.
Rathdowne street, west-Side
59 Australian Arms Hotel, Manton, Elijah

Hotels and Public-Houses
Australian Arms Hotel, Manton, Elijah, Rathdowne-street, Carl.

Melbourne Directory 1875
EAST MELBOURNE
Simpson street W side.
Manton Elijah.
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Re: Victorian Pioneer Lookup
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 12 March 11 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Its interesting that he was staying at a hotel as family folklore suggests Mr Wells was a publican!!!...More than pouring beers i gather...Thanks for the help...

I found a Mr Wells on the ship Gothenburg in Sept 1863 to Melb.  Is there any way of finding out his name & age?

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Re: Victorian Pioneer Lookup
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 12 March 11 12:08 GMT (UK) »
It's also interesting to see that when Matilda  married Henry Wells
in Victoria in 1880 - she used the name Matilda HERBERT ( not her married name of Manton)

Wonder what details would be on this marriage certificate -
widow? unmarried? divorced?

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Re: Victorian Pioneer Lookup
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 12 March 11 12:26 GMT (UK) »


If this is your Henry

Henry P Wells
Birth: abt 1835 - Bramshott, Hampshire, England

he is still in England on the 1861 census.  So that helps to narrow
down arrival dates.

Can't see any details for the Mr Wells you mentioned on the Gothenburg

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