Old Melbourne Cemetery - Pauper's graves

[chrissyst]

Lowthian

also found this death notice as well which would appear to be the son of your man..its for his wifes death but look at the cousin names they are 'daltons' ..it seems to link

''''LOWTHIAN -On the 31st December 1925 (suddenly)   at Koondrook, Valma May, dearly loved second
daughter of Mr. and Mrs. W. J. Lowthian, darling sister of Una, Jack, and Ray), aged 6 years and 11 months.
The family chain broken

LOWTHIAN -On the 31st December, at her parents home, Koondrook, Valma May, dearly  loved cousin of Ella (Mrs. P.S. Wales), Ivy,  Maggie and Mena Dalton.

[chrissyst]

27.10.1953 in the Argus ...this would appear to be the son of your William John Lowthian also known as William John.

''Barham man dies at bowls Barham, Monday.
Mr. William John Lowthian, retired Koondrook business man, collapsed and died yesterday afternoon.
He was playing bowls at Barham bowling green.
He formerly conducted a bakery business. He is survived by a widow, a daughter and two sons.

chrissy

[chrissyst]

Lowthian   Margaret Thompson   70   1915

entry on Eucha Cemetery Records for her burial.

Dalton   Alice Marion   32   1912

burial record at Eucha Cemetery

chrissy

[cando]

Hello,
From a family story I am trying to prove is the fact that one of my family members was buried in the Old Melbourne Cemetery in 1853/1854 in a pauper's grave.
I have read that records are scarce, but does anyone know if a death certificate would have normally been issued ?

The name in question is William Lowthian who was born in Cumberland UK in 1835 and the story tells he arrived in Australia in 1853/4 - there is one who fits this arrival year on the ship "Oregon" but it just gives his age as "A" - meaning adult.

 Thanks in Advance
Ro

Ro I wonder if this is your William's death?  I think you would need to see the death certificate to ensure that the North America has been transcribed accurately.  I have had some weird and wonderful places of birth on some of my distant rellies death certificates...and most of them incorrect.  I guess it would have depended on the interpretation of the information by the registrar and the hopefully accurate knowledge of the informant.

Death
LOUTHEAN William
Parents unknown  22 years 
Birth place Nth America   1854  Reg#3937

You can purchase online [$17.50] and immediately dowload an image of the cert.
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

Chrissy
To 1888 there are only four LOWTHIAN regs in Vic and the males were born Co Wexford Ireland and you appear to have followed that line.  William married Margaret DRYDEN in 1881 and lived at Kyneton.

Cheers
Cando

[Roseamry]

Hi Cando,
Thanks for the reply.
I reallu dont know if this could be the one, as the nearest I can come to calculating the age,  is that the one I am looking for would perhaps have been about 32 years of age in 1854. They all came from Cumberland England. The Irish line is not mine.
I have scoured through the family looking for some clue but perhaps it is one we will never find, or maybe it is just a family tale.
Thanks again
Ro

[cando]

Ro if he died before civil registration which commenced 1 July 1853, there may be no civil record.  I understand that a legislation passed in 1898 requested that all parish records before 1 Jan 1853 be sent to the Vic registry however this leaves a 6 month gap in the records ie between Jan 1 and July 1 1853.  Just a bit of trivia but could be the reason there is no death registration for William.

Cheers
Cando

[Roseamry]

Hi Cando,
Every little bit of "trivia" helps
regards Ro

[Ausjules]

I am researching the rusk family that arrived in port phillip bay in 1851 aboard the harry lorrequer. According to passenger lists there was edward, elizabeth and there 6 sons. I found that edward bought 5 allotments from holloway in 'gipsy village' that became cheltenham. I also found a death record for an edward rusk in 1854. My question is, does anyone know if there was a cemetery in gipsy village in 1854? I have found elizabeth and several sons buried in the old cheltenham cemetery, but am unsure of where edward could be. Thanks, julie.

[Raylen]

Hello Julie and welcome 

Buried at  St Andrews Church   Brighton                 

Rusk    Edward    1854    age 36years

Raylen