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Parish of Ormskirk Lancs
« on: Wednesday 09 March 11 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, have just found this wonderful website. I am researching my surname "Wilberforce" but I am now stuck. I am as far back as my Gt Gt Grandfather Mark Wilberforce, born in 1798 in Ormskirk. And it is info from Ormskirk that I can't find. He came to Liverpool I assume quite young as he married a Betty Richardson at St Annes Richmond Liverpool in 1811, and from then on all his descendants were born and lived in Liverpool. Any info gratefully appreciated.

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Re: Parish of Ormskirk Lancs
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 20:09 GMT (UK) »
Ormskirk has a good Family History Society:

http://www.odfhs.org.uk/

Hope that helps!

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Re: Parish of Ormskirk Lancs
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 22:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Did Mark die in 1849?

Do you already have these christenings of his children

John 22.11.1812 - Wavertree
Mary 30.1.1814   - Wavertree
Frances Jane 1.10.1820 - Childwall
Peter 13.7.1823  - Wavertree

In 1841 he is living alone in Wavertree Village indexed as Willerforce.  Age 45 and occupation bricklayer he is shown as not born in county (ie) Lancashire

Where did you get the info from that he was born in Ormskirk

HO107 Piece 511/9  Folio 36 Page 22
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Re: Parish of Ormskirk Lancs
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat Jimbow  :D :D

Lancashire Online Parish Clerk website has just uploaded the Kirkham church baptisms for 1776-1800
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

follow the 'what's new' link, scroll down to Kirkham.
Unfortunately Mark Wilberforce is not listed between 1798-1800, but they haven't done the post-1800 baptisms yet, so he may have been baptised later, or of course at a completely different church. Or a different town if the census Carole found is the right one.


sorry will amend, have put Kirkham instead of Ormskirk  ::) ::)
still, no Wilberforces earlier than 1820 or so in the whole of Lancs OPC search

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Just checking - is the birth date of 1798 definitely right there? He was only 13 when he married?

 :) Barbara

LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: Parish of Ormskirk Lancs
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 23:07 GMT (UK) »
1841 shows him as 45 so age between 45-49 allowing for rounding down.  Birthyear 1792-1796

Marriage 1811 so would expect birthyear to be 1792/94 
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Re: Parish of Ormskirk Lancs
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 23:12 GMT (UK) »
I think son Peter was a bit of a wrong 'un

12.8.1843 aged 21 - - receiving stolen goods - 8mths imprisonment
17.2.1845 aged 22 - larceny - not guilty
19.10.1846 larceny aged 24 - 10yrs transportation


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Re: Parish of Ormskirk Lancs
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Per freebmd  www.freebmd.org.uk

Deaths September qtr 1837   
Betty Wilberforce   West Derby  20 653
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Re: Parish of Ormskirk Lancs
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 23:36 GMT (UK) »
From the IGI

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

MARK WILBERFORCE   Christening:  09 JUN 1789   North Newbald, Yorkshire,    Father:  JOHN WILBERFORCE     Mother:  FRANCES 

1841 shows Mark not born in county

Youngest daughter was called Frances
First son was called John

Birthyear sits better with an 1811 marriage

It would be interesting to know how old both Betty & Mark were when they died
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Re: Parish of Ormskirk Lancs
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 March 11 00:04 GMT (UK) »
there is also a William Wilberforce bap 1796 at north Newbold, parents John and Frances. 
Possible fit for the William Wilberforce in Wavertree in 1841, married to Lydia. Mark's brother perhaps?
HO107/511/9/37

Wilberforce not a common Lancashire name at all
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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