Hunt For the Missing Stagg 2

[Ermintrude46]

Figment of Mary Ann's imagination more like - did S Stagg actually sign the 1911 census form?  Did Mary Ann Bligh actually marry William Stagg?  Given that John Ellis isn't her brother at all but he's still living with the family I'd be more inclined to suspect him - when did his wife, Eliza, die?
Ermy

[janan]

Mary ann Bligh sister married an ellis

Thanks for that.

So do you have her marriage to William George? If of course she married him.

Jan

Interesting thoughts there ermy - I was just wondering if S Stagg existed but if he didn't why not just call him William George as she did on the birth certificate 12 years after his death?

[janan]

This is very weird..

Baptisms Islington St Lukes West Holloway

Born 22 Sep 1883 baptised  5th Nov 1890 Hannah Maud Bligh parents Charles and Mary Ann 2 Corporation St Gardener

Born 24 June 1890 baptised 5th Nov Emily Elizabeth Stagg parents William George and mary Ann 2 Corporation St Groom

So is Hannah Stagg in 1901 actually Mary Ann's sister rather than daughter? And is Emily the Ellen in 1901? And if Mary Ann is saying she is married in 1890 why is she unmarried in 1891??

Jan

[Ermintrude46]

Mmmm, good question Jan.  What's with the 12 years married bit tho', that's surely a fib as she's shown as widowed in 1901 (also a fib, probably )  She's unmarried in the 1891 census too, apparently, William dies in 1893 and I can't see a likely marriage for them.  I think she's just given her father's name for Maud Hannah's baptism for the sake of 'respectability' so obviously has no qualms about fibbing to officials of all kinds    Maud definitely shown as grandaughter to Charles in the 1891 census.
Ermy

[janan]

Baptism St Pancras Old Church

Jul 26th 1896 born Jul 24th 1896 Frederick Stagg parents William George and Mary Ann St Pancras Workhouse Groom

Jan

Fib after fib after fib

[Ermintrude46]

Well, well, William risen from the grave a second time by the look of it   

baron, do you have the actual death certificate for William Stagg, take it it is this one you were referring to?

Deaths Mar 1893
Stagg  William George  29  Islington  1b 240

Wonder if this is Elizabeth's death?
Deaths Mar 1910 
ELLIS  Elizabeth  57  Wandsworth  1d 341

It seems she and John didn't have any children of their own ...
Ermy

[baron of balham]

the 1911 census was signed by S Stagg.
No Proof Mary Married William George Stagg, but he appears as the deceased father on Ellen stagg (daug) on her marriage certificate in 1911.

william George Stagg also appears as father on minnie may stagg birth certificate 1906

[janan]

Oh dear
Burial St Pancras Parish Chapel
25th Sep 1896 Frederick Stagg 2mo 76 Peckwater St 

Jan

[baron of balham]

i know william george stagg died in 1893, in islington 1b 240 march qtr