On 5 April 1939 he was in England because on that date he took (and passed) his Aviator's Certificate at Weston Aero Club, flying a "Hornet Moth, Gipsy Major, 130". He gave his address as Home Bungalow, Locking Road East, Weston Super Mare. His birthdate was given as 5 September 1895 at Weston Super Mare; occupation was Airport Traffic Supt.