Leander Green

[Roy G]

I hope I'm not being sexist by saying that when it comes to correctness of age, some ladies have been known to show an element of constructive flexibility!!!   Roy G

[Jane Masri]

Nicely put Roy, but she's making herself OLDER 

Jane

[SandraD]

Thanks everyone for your invaluable input.  I've been in hospital and I was delighted to find all the activity that has gone on in the meantime.

It plainly states Gladman on the marriage cert but if Leander had 'an accent' then her pronunciation of her late father's surname may have confused the registrar.  Everything else seems pretty conclusive, doesn't it? I have found a Baptism record for her younger brother William Gladwin (2 Mar 1884 at Streatham St Leonard) but it doesn't look like her parents bothered to register her.

My grandmother was Helen Harriet Thorpe so probably named after Leander's mother.  I have a surviving uncle, grandson of Leander, who will be very excited by all this.  He was only 7 when she died and can't remember much - except she was 'scary'! As to her age, will we ever really know.

Sandra D

[Roy G]

Someone else who is connected has just appeared on the My Brighton website.  Today, PATRICIA CARLTON wrote
I AM TRYING TO FIND THEPARENTS OF MY GRANDMOTHER LEANDER GLADWIN SHE WAS BORN WITH GYPSY DECENDANTS AROUND 1869 SHE LIVED IN STYENING, AND I ASSUME SHE LIVED WITH MY GRANDFATHER ALFRED THORPE AS I CANT FIND A MARRAGE, HER DAUGHTER WAS GERTRUDE THORPE ONE OF MANY CHILDREN.
Another person for you to share your info with Sandra.   Roy G

[SandraD]

Thanks Roy. I found Patricia yesterday and have shared all our info with her.  Perhaps she'll be able to come up with more.

 I seem to have been 'locked out' for a couple of days - don't know why that should happen.

[Jane Masri]

It seems that the Brighton & Hove site is the place to be Sandra!  Probably your next move would be to try & find a possible baptism for Leander?  We've not had any luck with a birth reg so maybe a baptism can be found.  Mitcham parish church is the obvious place to start.

Jane

[SandraD]

Don't think I 'locked it' myself, I wouldn't know how!!

My Brighton & Hove is a fascinating site and extremely easy to use. When logged on type in 'Copperas Gap' and you'll find all sorts of anecdotes and mentions of the Thorpes. I've picked up a few bits but nothing exact -  some interesting things about a gyspy campsite and a sad story of one of Leander's children drowning in the canal.  I did find out that Leander was the 'local midwife' in 1930s and 40s. If she's survived another year she could have delivered me - we all lived in Wolseley Road.

On 1891 Census I have found Gladwins living at 24 Wilford Rd (page 29)and a James Green at 32 Wilford Rd (page 30).  Could that possibly be him?  Seems much older than Leander (Linda).

Sandra

[aghadowey]

Moderators don't lock threads without a good reason (and would usually explain why a thread has been locked) so you probably locked it accidentally by clicking on the lock without realising it. It's unlocked now so you can continue the thread 

[SandraD]

Thank you and sorry.