Leander Green

[Jane Masri]

Hi Sandra,
So we really 'barked up the wrong tree'?    Leander wasn't the daughter of Solomon Hearne!Back to the drawing board!
It looks like Leander's DOB is about 1875 according to her marriage certificate & her death reg. which is about 1874.
The birth reg. then, Leander Hearn Q1 1879, Croydon is not your Leander but the daughter of Solomon.
Just to confuse matters further there is a birth reg. for a Leander GREEN, Q2 1875, Mile End.
I'm sure that's just a coincidencen 
I've been looking for Leander Gladman with father, George in the 1881 & 1891 census but with no luck as yet.  Perhaps, 'hawk eyes' Roy might spot them 

Jane

[Roy G]

Roy's been doing the same, but has begun to whether Leander came from a liberated travelling community that indulged in passing relationships, where marriage had little significance, or simply had no respect for registration or legislation (have you filled out your census forms?)
So unless you have already found both parents of Leander Green and can officially discount her, I advise you to keep her in the frame for a while just in case her mum turns out to be single, or was married but "strayed" during her husband's absence.      (gosh you do have to choose your words carefully on this site!)  Roy G

[Jane Masri]

Hi Roy,
She does say she's widowed on her marriage to Alfred & marry's in the name of Leanda Green with father George Gladman which suggests she was born Leanda Gladman & married a guy by the name of Green.
I've just been going over the B&H postings again & someone who has a birth certificate of one of their children gives her maiden name as Gladwin.  More for the melting pot!
Jane

[Roy G]

Another GUT FEELING she slipped the net being cast by officialdom is that she signed her M cert with an X in 1931.  That suggests she never had any education whatsoever.  Pity you dont have the Green M cert (if one existed) to see if her mark made on that too?   
Was Gladwin a typo for Gladman by the way?     Roy G

[Jane Masri]

Roy, I'm not sure about the Gladwin/Gladman issue.  I think we should wait & see what Sandra makes of all this.  I'm also intrigued as to Romany marriages.  Did they also marry in a church?  If they didn't was it considered legally binding?  I'm thinking about Leander stating on the 1901 census that she was married whereas Alfred says he's single which fits in with her status of widow when she marries in 1931.  Was she waiting for her husband (Green) to die so that she could marry Alfred?  Why is it we can't find her Green marriage?
This is a very confusing piece of research 

Jane

[cath151]

Hi,
Been following the thread and did find entries in 1881 and 1891 for a Linda Gladwin, father George , who seems to fit the bill. Born Mitcham.
1891  RG12 /592  15/29
1881  RG 11/826 148/36
Can t find a marriage though
 Best wishes
 Cathy

[cath151]

Ooh yes there is
JAS 1897 Reigate 2a 367
James Green  same page
Linda Gladwin

Cathy

[Jane Masri]

Well done Cathy    That's her;

1881 - tent on Mitcham Common
Mister Gladwin  22  Pedlar  b. Croydon
Harriet               21   ditto     b. Fulham Fields, Sry
Linda                    1                 b. Mitcham

On the image it could read Leanda.

1891 - 24 Wilford Rd, Croydon

George Gladwin  32  Hawker  b. Croydon
Harriet                 31                b. Battersea
Linda                    11                 b. Mitcham
William                   7                         ditto
George                    ?                         ditto
James                     3                          ditto

The birth reg. for Unity Green that Roy found was Q2 (Apr, May, June) 1897, Hartley Witney in Hants.
I found a baptism on the familysearch beta site for Unity Green, 11/1/1899, Surrey.  Parents, Jim & Richenda Green (could Richenda be a mis-transcription??)  Is this the right Unity having been born in Hants but later baptised in Surrey???

Jane

[Roy G]

Great seeing a mystery slowly unravel.  What a history to have and what dedication from all & sundry     Roy G