Leander Green

[SandraD]

Please, does anyone have information about my great-grandmother, Leander Green?  Born in 1880, apparently of Romany descent, she lived with Alfred Thorpe in Portslade-by-Sea, Sussex.  I can only find her on the 1901 Census.  I'm not sure if they married but they had, possibly, 10 children between 1899 and 1930.  I do know that Leander was a well-known figure in the area.  Thank you.

[Jane Masri]

Sandra, I found a marriage on FreeBMD,
LEANDA Green to Alfred J. Thorpe, Steyning, Sussex (2b 755) Q4 1931
Portslade comes under Steyning RD.
So, they married after the fact    If you get a copy of their marriage it should give her father's name.

Jane

[Jane Masri]

There's a good page here on Rootschat for those looking for information & help with travelling people
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,387.0.html

I'm sure someone can help you out,

Jane

[SandraD]

Thank you - that was quick.  I'll start tracking that down immediately.

[Jane Masri]

Sandra I've found Leander & her family in 1891;
Solomon HEARNE  52  Tinker  NK where born
Eliza                        48                      ditto
Job                           22                b. Ssx
Polly                         15                  ditto
LEANDER                 12                 b. Sry
Mark                           3   
Daniel                        12m

There at 54 Wardley St, Wandsworth  RG12/448/116/19

I noticed on the 1901 that she states she is married & Albert says not married so there's a chance she 'married' in the Romany way before she met Albert & had that 1 child, Unity.
I can't find that marriage or Unity's birth reg on FreeBMD but that doesn't surprise me 
I'm looking on the 1881 for the family but no luck yet.  They might have 'escaped' being enumerated!

Jane

[Roy G]

Good idea to hedge your bets on this site too Sandra.
To avoid duplication though, it may help Rootschatters to help you further by knowing what information you already have from the two strings of the 'My Brighton' website. 
http://www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk/page_id__5595_path__0p114p126p917p.aspx
http://www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk/forum_id__5_state__st_idthread__5380_idmessage__21025.aspx
On that site there is already a note regarding Unity Green's birth. 
The full details for obtaining a certificate is that she was born in the June quarter of 1897 in Hartley Wintney. Reference  2c 171

Following through from Jane's findings, its possible that there was no Official marriage between Soloman and Eliza either, so Leander's birth may have been overlooked or just registered in her mother's surname.
Roy G.

[Jane Masri]

Thanks for the detective work, Roy, it makes things clearer.
Doing a bit of digging with the census gets a little confusing    1891 has Leander with her siblings & parents, Solomon & Eliza Hearne in Wandsworth.
Going back to 1881 this same Solomon & Eliza are at South Weald, Essex at Daws Farm (RG11/1756/149/6) but no Leander only a 1 year old daughter, Mary born Southweald..is this Leander?  Essex is not Surrey!
1871 has Solomon & Eliza in N. Benfleet (RG10/1659/14/4)
Possible marriage of Solomon Hearn, Q1 1864, Chelmsford with an Eliza Everitt on same page.
1861 there is a possible siting of Solomon but down as Solomon Amos a servant.
1851, Great Baddow  (HO107/1776/540/25)
Joseph Smith  36  ag lab  b. Broomfield, Essex
Sarah Smith    38                b. Widford, Essex
SOLOMON H. SMITH  13  b. Gt. Baddow
Jessie? male                    7       ditto
Emily                                4        ditto
Amos                              1          ditto

1841 Grt. Baddow
Meshac Hurn  70  Tinman  not born Essex
Sarah               25                         born Essex
Solomon            4                                 ditto

Looks like Solomon was illegitimate but Sarah marries a Joseph Smith, Q3 1844, Chelmsford.  Sarah Hearn on same page.

There is a death reg. for Leander Thorpe Q1 1947, Worthing.  Her age is given as 73 which gives her a DOB of 1874.  They've made her a few years older 

Jane

[Roy G]

Still a little confusing.     
You say 1881 has no Leander only a 1 year old daughter Mary
FreeBMD however, lists Leander Hearn (without an E) registered as born Croydon district in the March quarter of 1879.

If that is her in 1891, how did Leander Hearn(e) become Leander Green?   At the moment I can only think that unless she already had a previous marriage, she pronounced her surname 'HEEN'    Roy G

[Jane Masri]

Hi Roy, you're sharper than me as I didn't find that BMD birth 
See my reply#4 regards GREEN.  As yet I didn't find the marriage of Leander to a Green.

Jane