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Re: ChCh Quake Again!
« Reply #270 on: Friday 25 February 11 05:48 GMT (UK) »
Are you folks still be shaken all the time or are you getting some relief?
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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« Reply #271 on: Friday 25 February 11 06:07 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if anyone was in the tower?  Just heart breaking for all the families local and international.

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There was apparently a tour party in the tower at the time, 20+ people. They have started to remove all the loose bits from the top of tower so they can start moving the rubble at the bottom, according to TVNZ site, and TV1 news tonight.

Have been up the tower, quite a few years ago though. It is a long way up, and very narrow spiral stairs from what I can remember. Great view from the top though. Not a place to be caught in an earthquake.

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« Reply #272 on: Friday 25 February 11 07:22 GMT (UK) »
I think they should publically name and shame these scumbag looters and scammers that are coming out of the woodwork...lowest of the low!!!
Main names:
Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley, Conway, Stewart
Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey.
Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Nixon, Sharp, Greaves, Naters
Warwickshire and London - Garfield.
Ireland, Co. Kerry - Marah/Meara/Mara, McClure, Howard, Melvin
Lincs - Smith, Vinter

other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, , Stewart, Conway, Heather,

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« Reply #273 on: Friday 25 February 11 07:27 GMT (UK) »
Only been up the tower twice, did not like the feel of the enclosed area, plus it is a spiral stair case.

My thoughts exactly Tephra, bring back those stocks, throw rotten eggs at the low life and make them recover the bodies, About time the law stopped with the P.C, as these people have no respect toward others in need.

The temperature has dropped and getting darker earlier, tomorrow should be better.

A couple of very strong aftershocks this evening 4.4 and a 4.3 which were high to the surface.

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MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
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POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
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« Reply #274 on: Friday 25 February 11 07:31 GMT (UK) »
New Zealand has 4 million people and it is often said that you can walk down any street in NZ and find someone you know (but a lesser chance of that now than when I was a boy). The degrees of separation are low and in Christchurch only about 2. Yet it has taken two days to contact all our friends a relatives to say that we were ok and to seek their status. As a genealogist compare this with 120 days for a letter by sailing-ship or even airmail.  Soon we realised that our family and friends have had  the full gamut of experience. A close friend went to school with one of the named dead and he knew of that death (and we by email) several hours before it was released to the media.  Our cousin's daughter was in one of those badly damaged buildings but ran out, the bricks and dust falling and billowing about her. She lost her handbag with all her bits and pieces, cell phone, money and bills that had to be paid.  Her husband came to look for her but they did not meet for three hours - her cell phone may have been ringing in the rubble.  My daughter has taken in two of her friends; they have lost everything in a totally collapsed apartment (they were out driving at the time).  Another cousin has had little damage in that suburb flooded by water and silt.  Another close friend, living in the badly affected area came away with only the treasured album of her son lost, with all her possessions in a fire several years ago.
We took our "refugees" back to their apartments this morning to collect their personal belongings.   Entered Christchurch by the tree-lined road near the airport through a virtually undamaged leafy suburb that many tourists enjoy. It was also lined with the green wheelie-bins all neatly lined up before the garbage trucks empty them and throw them around. Everyone there was going about their daily business, and  in our eyes, more normal than normal. Closer to the cordoned CBD the silt had been piled on the roadside the first stage of the cleanup.  On a clean area of the golf course in the park which I had left only a three days ago were lines of campervans arranged around portaloos. Further over was the tent city of the displaced.  At every, and it is every, corner of the roads leading into and within the cordoned CBD there are police and army  personnel. They could not have been more helpful once we had identified ourselves and our mission.  It is rather a miserable wet day and all had time to pause and chat after the necessities were done (This may have been a further assessment on their part of our intentions). Our "refugees" are fortunate that their house and apartment are uninhabitable only due to lack of water and sewer - "health reasons" on the notice. Into the mess to collect personal belongings, medicines, clothes, and empty the fridges of food before it rotted too much. Today the mess did not seem such a huge effort to clean, nevertheless it was left as is, bar for the path through it. Met some building assessors outside who were certain that we had not followed the proper procedure for entering - a little bit of bureaucratic power. Too late, we already had our stuff and there had been no aftershocks.  Only at home, at 6.30 pm did we learn that the road we took is  now closed because of an unstable building. The police showed more compassion under these circumstances and at the exit checkpoint wished us well. Had we been nearer the real damage and danger in the central city we would more likely to have been given a justifiable kick in the pants.  All of us far and near have admired the commitment and tenacity of the police, rescue teams and individuals in difficult, often dangerous, conditions. All thanks and praise to them.    (see next) MalNZ
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« Reply #275 on: Friday 25 February 11 07:36 GMT (UK) »
And on my hobbyhorse - The TV presenters are in prim suits, without visible identification tags, suggesting that their suits are sufficient identification akin to the now dusty but brilliant boiler suits and jackets of the real workers and police. The portrayal of anguish sells more advertising than the tedium of finding fresh water or a serviceable toilet. Perhaps we are to blame for this in our search for armchair "experience" of a "reality" drama.
There is one thing that television has yet to portray - the smell.  Hell is not a folk memory of a fiery pit in the Afar Triangle, but a significant wrench in a city road relieving itself of odious gases created by far too much concrete, brick and tar that seals off the soil below.  TV also took a very narrow view of the CBD and little of the suburbs, though Lyttelton, South City and eastern suburbia are now getting the attention they deserve. Life is suburbia where individuals interact in daily chores and personal interactions, not the bureaucratic 9 to 5'ers pushing paper and sipping coffee on the sidewalk (though I do love doing the latter on warm days) .

With the best wishes and help of others, those affected pick up the pieces of their lives and continue. It is all one can do - no use complaining about a not too random event of nature.  For some it is certainly back to the basics of our g-grandparent immigrants. The newspaper reported that the prostitutes of the several greatly damaged Manchester Street "houses" are now at new stations and comment "we have to earn a living".

It is sad to see the city that we knew is now no longer with us just as the city of our parent's youth was changed by our generation. It will be replaced by something WE might not recognise as home, but it will be for those living here in the next 50 years. I know that they will do their best to make it so. 

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Re: ChCh Quake Again!
« Reply #276 on: Friday 25 February 11 07:41 GMT (UK) »
You paint word pictures well Mal!

 Thanks!

Wiggy 
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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« Reply #277 on: Friday 25 February 11 07:54 GMT (UK) »
I have to agree with your comments about the media Mal, in particular the Television media. They are hell bent on getting pictures of bloodstained survivors and bodies if they are allowed to get near them and close up shots of weeping and distraught survivors. Not content with what they have been through and are going through they insist on confronting them with microphones and cameras.  Asking them stupid questions about how they feel and what it was like.

To those of us here in NZ it was nice to hear yesterday morning on Morning Report the calm voice of that true reporter Kim Hill who had obviously been brought back to fill the holes left by the dispatch of reporters to the Canterbury region. Her sympathetic interviews that I heard were very refreshing.

I now get all my news from either the internet or the radio.


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« Reply #278 on: Friday 25 February 11 08:02 GMT (UK) »



Couldn't agree more with the comment about the news reporters.   I don't want to know how somebody was feeling or what they could see....... I only want to know THEY GOT OUT!!!

Chin up ChCh........  we're with you.
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