Frederick Deeming - Notorious murderer

[mikecovell]

I have traced Ann Bailey family back through parish registers to the 1600's.  I have traced Thomas Deeming and his family back to the early 1600's, and whilst Thomas's family resided in Atherstone briefly, they are of no connection to the Deeming family of Atherstone, who were a different clan of Deeming's. 

This is apparant as the Atherstone Deeming's were the subject of several newspaper stories pubished in the Lecister Chronicle and Leicstershire Mercury in the 1870's, couple with the official testimonies of members of the Deeming family at both the Rainhill inquest, and the Windsor inquest.

I have searched both families back to the 1600's and have the family trees composited of birth, marriage, death, christening, burial, wills and probate, criminal, parish, poor law, census, trade directories, marriage banns, immigration, emigration, military records, and much much more and there is no connection between the two other than they shared the same surname and for a brief spell resided in the same district.

[maidmarianoops]

Frederick Deeming born Birkenhead in 1853
1881 setup home in lodgings in Woolloomooloo


Nasty Man


Sylvia
i have a book called Murder Almanac 150 years of chilling crime

[dcbnwh]

Mike,

It doesn't matter very much to me but it sounds as though many people have the wrong line and may need to correct it.

You may not wish to divulge all of your research but where roughly did the family come from? Most seem to originate in the Warwickshire area or just over the border.

David

[mikecovell]

As far as I can trace both families back they are in Warwickshire.  Some of the information I have gleaned will be featured in a new documentary on Deeming to air later in the year, but the vast bulk of it is being saved for a book.

[dcbnwh]

Thanks Mike,

You have probably seen this but it is a picture of the Pub at the end of Queens Place where the Deemings lived in 1861. My grandparents lived just down the road in Rock Ferry.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/liverpoolsuburbia/3133387385/

You can still see the street name on the pub wall on Google Streetview.

[mikecovell]

Thanks for sharing.  I have passed through Rainhill once or twice and got some wonderful old photos that were taken in 1892 for the Rainhill Murder trial.  Copyright prevents me from posting, but they feature Dinham Villa, the street, the church were Marie and the four children were buried and some other general shots of the district.

I have been through to Beverley on several occasions and got photos etc of where Helen Matheson resided and where her mother worked.  Whilst in Beverley it was also written that Deeming had met and proposed to another woman who owned a pub, so I have visited there too. 

I have hundreds of images of the locations in Hull, Portsmouth, Great Yarmouth, and other places associated with Deeming, and a book case full of books, journals, articles, official files and penny dreadfuls on him and his crimes.

[Nick d]

Well after reading the past few posts it seems like I wouldn't be related, still a very interesting subject and it's made me want to trace my family

[mikecovell]

There are Deeming family members across the globe too Nick, I have spoke with family members in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, and even some in Canada.

[Nick d]

I thought the family was all in my local area, very interesting. I find frederick deeming very interesting as alot of stuff I have read says he was born in ashby de la zouch and I am living in measham 4 miles away, I have got somebody working on my families past just out of curiosity and I am sure I will be continuing my interest in Frederick