Frederick Deeming - Notorious murderer

[dcbnwh]

Hi Ruskie,

Thank you for your messages.

I tried to post a reply earlier but it seems to have vanished.

I have managed to trace descendants from one of the brothers who moved to Cheshire but have not been able to contact them.

Fred had several Aunts and Uncles who remained in Warwickshire but I can't trace any descendants on the usual genealogy sites. Possibly none are involved with family history or don't know the link to Fred. I believe that some of the family used the surname of Bailey to distance themselves from him.

It is quite a fascinating story, albeit a gruesome one. If he still has relatives in Warwickshire, I am sure that some would like to know. Others may prefer not to know.

This link has details of the project: -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1342421/Is-skull-Ned-Kelly-Jack-Ripper-DNA-relative-solve-mystery.html

Regards,
David

[mikecovell]

Morning all, I have been filming with an Australian TV crew in the UK in Kingston Upon Hull regarding Deeming.  They are on their way to Rainhill and spending time in the area before dropping down to London. 

I have been researching Frederick Bailey Deeming for several years now and have thousands of newspaper reports, magistrates papers, Hull Corporation papers, Census returns, birth, marriage and death details, and much much more. 

In the past I have been in contact with relatives of Deeming and his victims, but I leave the decision up to them to contact the relative people about their infamous ancestor. 

[dcbnwh]

Hello Mike,

I found an interesting picture on Ancestry.com of the Deeming family, which was posted by one of Fred's relatives.
I am not sure of the date but I think it is of Fred's uncle and his cousins. Two of them look a bit like him.

I can't post the picture because it may be copyright but please send me a personal message if you would like further details.

Regards,
David

[mikecovell]

Hi David, I have seen the picture and it's fascinating.  The Deeming family were quiet large and after the murder trial moved not only across the UK but settled across the world to get away from the stigma that he left on the family name.

[karliah]

Hello, I am related to Frederick Deeming, I stumbled on this while researching more about him. My grandfather told me that we had a murderer in the family named Frederick Deeming and because of the embarassment our last name was changed from Deeming to Jones. I hope this helps.

[mikecovell]

Hi Karliah, there are quiet a few relatives of Deeming, they are spread across the globe, how are you related?

[dcbnwh]

There is a very interesting illustration of Fred Deeming in the July issue of the 'Who do you think you are?' magazine.

If you haven't seen it or can't get hold of a copy, please send me a personal message with your email address.

David

[mikecovell]

I have hundreds of sketches and photos of Deeming and have saved them all on a pendrive, they are taken from press reports published in the UK, Australia, New Zealand and America and some of the photos are from archival centres across the world.  I have sent a message though David as I am quiet curious now.

[Redroger]

Having read the article I make the following comments:
1) Why not Y chromosome DNA from a male relative if there is one?
2) Personally I wouldn't place too much reliance on the Ripper story. I think every condemned murderer at that period would want to have the further notoriety conferred by the supposed link. He was very probably bragging!