William Bailey & family....Where is Westoe & Shiney Row??

[bendywendy]

Hi
I have these addresses from census info..
1871 6 John Street, Westoe, South Shields ... cannot find this street
1881 22 Havelock Street, Westoe, South Shields...looks like this has been cleared, but is not near Westoe Village?
1891 41 Havelock Street, Westoe, South Shields

I cannot find Westoe only Westoe Village, are these the same place??

William lived in Westoe and worked in the mines, where would the nearest mines be?? Westoe mine dosen't appear to have opened until 1904 ish??

Regards
Bendywendy

[stanmapstone]

Havelock Street and John Street were in Westoe Civil Parish, or Township.
See South Shields Registration District, 1871 Census Street Index at http://www.rootschat.com/links/0c4o/
Stan

[stanmapstone]

To find John Street go to http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm and enter the coordinates 436610, 567244 into search, this will centre the map on the location, and you can see the street named on the 1919-1926 map.
The colliery would be St. Hilda's, see http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/s022.htm
Stan

[stanmapstone]

This map shows the extent of the Township of Westoe Number 2. The township of South Shields was a narrow strip along the river Number 1

Stan

[bendywendy]

Hi Stanmapstone
Many thanks for your quick help, I thought I was going bonkers or that googlemaps was, it took me to Lanchester, Durham  that could not be correct being South Shields.
Will look at all the links a little later.

Would you mind showing me the area of Shiny Row, South Shields please. Was it just a single road or an area covering many streets/roads?? googlemaps only shows SR at top of Beatrice Terrace.

Thank you
Bendywendy

[stanmapstone]

The only Shiney Row I know of in County Durham is the village near Houghton-le-Spring. Where do you get Shiny Row South Shields from? See http://www.mymarras.co.uk/pages/shiney_row.htm

Stan

[bendywendy]

Now Stan
My partners mother used to visit Shiny Row as a wee child with her Granny Lythe who was the dau of William Bailey (I think so far!!!). They used to travel on the train from York to So. Shields to Shiny Row. She has said she believed it to be just a row of houses called Shiny Row. I too can only find  Houghton le Spring.

Looking at the houses on Beatrice Road, they don't tie in with what she remembers, she believes they were a row of miners cottages, so it could have been demolished and rebuilt??

You are correct with spelling of Shiney Row. I have found Shiney Row of Shiney Row, which on googlemaps is listed as this Shiney Row, Shiney Row (SW-bound) & Shiney Row, Shiney Row (W-bound) & Shiney Row, Shiney Row (E-bound) & Shiney Row, Shiney Row (NE-bound) they all seem to connect to Philadelphia Lane, Chester Road. But no actual Shiney Row itself, most likely demolished now.
There is a highways roundabout sign on top of Philadelphia Lane which states Shiney Row followed by directions to Chester le Street & Washington - Penshaw - Sunderland and Local Traffic Only B1519. On Philadelphia Lane is Shiney Row Post Office.

Been looking on the map link you sent me...my partners mother visited between the years on map as 1938-1950
I don't know how you get the co ordinates from this page, on Search I just typed in Shiney Row on Street and got Shiney Row, Barnard Castle, Newbiggin. On Town there is two listings for Shiney Row - one on Golf Course and the other on Washington Highway. More confusing now    need to ask her MORE questions.

I have found Havelock St on the map link you sent me, here are the co-ordinates...a long while since I last did geography... E 435822 .. N 566183.. the area has been changed around since 1970, although the area was static from 1894 - 1970.

Regards
Bendywendy

[bendywendy]

Here is a photo of Granny Lythe with her granddaughter visiting Shiney Row. Does look like a cottage.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=518498.new#new
Bendywendy

[stanmapstone]

I have found Havelock St on the map link you sent me, here are the co-ordinates...a long while since I last did geography... E 435822 .. N 566183.. the area has been changed around since 1970, although the area was static from 1894 - 1970.

Regards
Bendywendy

HI Bendywendy

I had already got the coordinates for Havelock Street, but did not send them as I assumed you already had the location.

Stan