Herbert and Frances Emma WALKER - Dewsbury - circ 1867

[jaybees]

I am seeking information from anyone with Family or personal knowledge of the Family of Herbert and Frances Emma WALKER who resided in Dewsbury.   According to the 1901 Census Herbert was a Publican residing at 18 Victoria Crescent, Dewsbury Moor.   Other members of the family included :-

         Frances Emma WALKER (nee EASTWOOD) born Halifax abt 1863
         Doris                      "       born Dewsbury abt 1885
         James E                  "         "           "           "   1867
         Edward E               "          "           "           "   1869
         Fred                       "          "           "           "    1872
         Ruth M                   "          "           "           "    1874

Herbert was born in Dewsbury abt 1861 and died 1906, also in Dewsbury.

I am particularly interested in information on James E, regarding his second Christian Name and why I cannot find him on the 1911 UK Census.

Thanking you in anticipation.

[avm228]

         James E                  "         "           "           "   1867
         Edward E               "          "           "           "   1869
         Fred                       "          "           "           "    1872
         Ruth M                   "          "           "           "    1874

I haven't looked at the 1901 for them, but these dates can't be right, can they? Are they each 20 years later?

[avm228]

For James this looks promising, from FreeBMD:

Birth, Mar qtr 1887

James Ernest WALKER
Dewsbury 9b 641

[suzard]

This seems to be the census jaybees is referring to

1901
18 Victoria Crescent
Dewsbury
Herbert Walker head M 39 Hotel manager Pub
Frances E wife M 37
Doris daughter 15
James E son 14
Edward E son 12
Fred 9 son
Ruth M daughter 7
all b Dewsbury
RG13 4268 51

Suz

[avm228]

I am particularly interested in information on James E, regarding his second Christian Name and why I cannot find him on the 1911 UK Census.

For legal reasons we cannot do 1911 census lookups.  However, a free index search suggests there may be a suitable James E Walker in the Weymouth area in some sort of military context (perhaps naval?). He might be worth a look.

[suzard]

Was James E in the Royal Marines???

Suz

[jaybees]

Many thanks to the very kind persons who have responded to my query, suzard and avm228 in particular.

To Suzard :   To my knowledge James was never in the Royal Marines.   During World Wars 1 and 2 he was in the British and Australian Merchant Navies.   The 1901 UK Census that you have shown is the correct one.   

To Avm 228:   Thank you for prompting me to correct the years of birth.    They should, of course, read :-
                           Doris         1885
                           James E    1887
                           Edward E  1889
                           Fred          1892
                           Ruth          1894.

          Thanks for the info from FreeBMD.   I notice that there was also a James Edward born at Dewsbury about the same time.   'Drat it'.   Thanks also for the info about the 1911 UK Census.   I'll have a good look at that one

    Regards, Jim, in Australia

[dobfarm]

Not all Births are in the GRO and need to contact Dewsbury Register office

Though it not certain! Its strange if Edward E Walker in the 1901 census who was Edward Eastwood Walker b 1889 and his elder brother James E was not also James Eastwood Walker

Marriages Mar 1885   

Eastwood  Frances Emma    Dewsbury  9b 636   
   
Walker  Herbert     Dewsbury  9b 636   

Births Mar 1889   

Walker  Edward Eastwood    Dewsbury  9b 643

[jaybees]

Thank you for that information 'dobfarm'.   I can understand your reasoning regarding the second Christian Name.   I just took it for granted that the FreeBMD List was complete.   I'll follow your suggestion now and try to contact the Dewsbury Register Office.

Regards