john johnson

[franflynn]

Thanks Deccam for that info on the Tenters Fields .

Shane i looked on castlegardens.org no luck for John Johnson i put in dates for 1869 to 1884 and his occupation. 
 thanks again for given me that site to view

[franflynn]

Shane still  looking for info for john johnson but i wonder could you help me with this request please ' On his daughter Ellen johnson marriage cert to Richard bowes dated 1884 in st Catherines church meath st her address was given as it looks like 1  Tenters fields and Richard was 2 tenters fields what i was wondering who she lived with till her marriage she was only 18 and i did wonder was she employed in that house as i do  know by the 1901 census Richard was a painter as was his father Timothy BOWES.  Is there anyway you could find out who was living in 1 and 2 tenters fields in 1884 as it might give me some info on ellens family at that time. thanks fran

[shanew147]

Details of Tenter's Fields are not listed in Thom's on 1884, but there is a listing for Tenter Lane which mentions the fields. No mention of any Johnson or Bowes households, although they could have been tenants (or employees) of one of these houses :

 Tenter Lane - from Weaver's Sq to Sterling Lane
  Civil Parish of St. Catherine

 1,2 & 3 Mr. Keogh, Grocer
 Samuel Fairbrother, Tenter Field's - engineer and millwright
 Mr. William F. Byrne, Tenter House
 Mr. T. Gorman
 Mrs. Marshall, Lullymore House
 [tenements], Poplar Lodge

Tenter's lane was at the northern part of the fields, near to where Brown Street is now.

There are a number of records on IrishGenealogy with 'Tenter' in the address that might provide a clue.. doesn't appear to be street numbers on any of them - see Tenter, Parish Records, Dublin City  All the results are Church of Ireland at the moment, but maybe some RC ones will show up in a future update.


Shane

[franflynn]

Thanks Shane I ll will look up the irishgenology site
fran

[franflynn]

shane i was lookin on family search search records for john johnson and as he was widowed from my gt gt grandmother who died in 1867 i did find a marriage info for a j johnson date 1874 south side dublin that s the area i have found  him living up to 1869 is there anyway i could find out if this is his  marriage that would make it the 3 one as he was a widower when he married my gt gt grandmother in 1865.
  I have when i was in Dublin last August bought up to now 6 marriage and deaths copies for  j johnsons but none of them are the person i want.  I have gone into the Glasanevin cemetery site and found my gt gt grandmother s  grave  my sister went to visit only to find work was going on around the site we wanted to see. Shane I did find a j johnson address area was grangegorman it did nt say if he was living at the hospital  how could i   find out  more is that hospital still there ?  I would be pleased for any  info on this .  Thanks fran

[shanew147]

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i was lookin on family search search records for john johnson and as he was widowed from my gt gt grandmother who died in 1867 i did find a marriage info for a j johnson date 1874 south side dublin that s the area i have found  him living up to 1869 is there anyway i could find out if this is his  marriage .....
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Probably the best way to try to confirm a possible marriage would be to check the occupation for this John Johnston - hopefully a grocer or vintner of somesort.

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I did find a j johnson address area was grangegorman it did nt say if he was living at the hospital  how could i   find out  more is that hospital still there ?  I would be pleased for any  info on this
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where was this reference ?

Grangegorman ran from Brunswick St to the North Circular Rd and included the Female Penitentiary and Richmond Lunatic Asylum.


Shane

[franflynn]

 Shane
I got that info on john johnson when i went into the glasnevin cemetery site i paid for a search it did give me a grave number and age with an address granggorman.

Shane do i have to go to abbey st for the copy of john johnson marriage (hopefully the one i want)  as you say his occupation might tell me i m on the right track or is there any other way i could find this info.
Thanks fran

[shanew147]

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 do i have to go to abbey st for the copy of john johnson marriage (hopefully the one i want)  as you say his occupation might tell me i m on the right track or is there any other way i could find this info.
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I think a marriage cert may be the best way to tell if he's the correct John Johnson. Hopefully the address or occupation will be good clues that you can compare to the details you already have. There are certainly other people in Dublin named John Johnson around at the time, as you've already found out, so these details will hopefully help confirm or rule out the marriage. You may also be lucky with the names of witnesses - they can be family or relations you may have come across in other searches.

Do you have the index references from familysearch ?

If you do, then you only need a brief visit to the GRO office as you can use these details to order a cert as soon as you arrive. It's best to arrive at 9:30 as they open..

Parish records on www.irishgenealogy.ie might be useful, if a known address etc crops up, but RC records dont include occupations - so can be difficult to prove a connection with common names. Further RC records are  due to be added later this year.


Shane

[franflynn]

Thanks Shane ill keep searching

fran