john johnson

[franflynn]

I have been doing my family tree john johnson gt gt grandfather who i need info on. My sister 2 weeks ago went to Pearce st library and was able to find through Thoms 1869 Dublin directory he was still running a business at 79 Coombe dublin it was a spirit and grocery shop. after that year he seems to have vanished ive gone through the Abbey st deaths certs and up to now had 5 johns johnsons but they are not the right person. John johnson was married to Teresa on their marriage certs they had both been widowed and it seems Teresa maiden name was law less then she married a man called Egan widowed and married Johnson.  Sadly for Teresa who had a baby girl of 1 year old  and  after giving birth to her 2 child on her death cert it said death through her confinment. I would be ever so grateful if anyone could find out if j johnson was on any of the Dublin directories as i have the marriage cert of his daughter 1884 and it said father deceased but we never could find out what happened to the baby born to my gt gt grandmothe Teresa . I do hope to come to Dublin this year and any info would help me Thanks

[shanew147]

I'll check Thom's 1872 for you later on, and see if there's any sign of John at that address.

which date and church is shown on the marriage cert for John Johnson and Teresa Lawless ?


Shane

[myluck!]

Are you sure the baby girl lived? What was her date/year of birth and name if known

[shanew147]

Two possible children of John and Teresa from the extracted record collection on familysearch :

 Name: John Patrick Johnson
 Birth date:   01 Nov 1867
 Birthplace:   Dublin, Ireland
 Reference : 640, No 3 South City, Dublin

 Name: Ellen Teresa Johnson
 Birth date:   07 Apr 1866
 Birthplace:   Dublin
 Reference : 0728

Parents for both are John Johnson and Teresa Lawless

see :  Introduction to Irish Records



Shane

[franflynn]

Yes Shane the baby girl lived as shes my gt grandmothe but we never could find her baby brother john patrick we wonder did he die like his mother Teresa as baby john was born a few days before his mother's death
 fran

[franflynn]

 Shane my gt gt grandparents married at Francis St RC church on jan 8 1865  and also on looking at my gt gt grandmothers death cert she died at home address 79 Coombe . I have also been on the glasnevin site found Teresa but not her husband.
Shane the business 79 Coombe is a pub my sister looked went there to ask if anyone had any info on this address its now callled the Lamplighters we just wondered when John Johnson  lost his wife he was still there in 1869 how could we find out if maybe he went to America as when i spoke to my mother years ago a mention of the usa came into our conversation sadly mother is not around Shane like us all i do wished i had listened more when she spoke of our family . Thanks

[myluck!]

Have you looked into this man as a possibility for baby John Patrick?

John Johnston aged 30 on 1901 Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Wood_Quay/Golden_Lane/1341166/
He is the only entry of Johnson or Johnston in the correct age group born in Dublin that seems to match

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Wood_Quay/Chancery_Lane/63543/
This looks like the same man in 1911

[franflynn]

Ah thanks for that i did try this person sadly hes not the one.
 

[shanew147]

just one listing for John in the directories I have, but there is an additional address :

There's no sign of John in 1872 trade index, the street listing for the Coombe address is as follows :

1872 - 79 Coombe, John Marony - grocer & spirit dealer
  also at 1 Brabazon St  (same listing there)

1868 - 79 Coombe, John Johnson - grocer & spirit dealer
  also at 1 Brabazon St  (same listing there)
  (also in the trade's index)

1863 - 79 Coombe - Teresa Keegan - grocer & spirit dealer
   1 Brabazon St - Teresa Keegan - grocer & spirit dealer

Brabazon street is off the Coombe. No 79 seems to be a block or two away from the junction of the two streets.



Shane