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1861 census
« on: Thursday 03 March 11 02:09 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for a Frederick James on the 1861 census for Derbyshire possibly Melbourne age about 38 Thanks

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Re: 1861 census
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 March 11 02:40 GMT (UK) »
do you have any other information on frederick?

Was he born Derbyshire ? or did he just live there?

Was he married??

Children??

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Re: 1861 census
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 March 11 02:45 GMT (UK) »
there is a frederick living in Wilne Derbys

he was b Birmingham Warwicks and married to caroline

????
is this him?? if so I will post full census

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Re: 1861 census
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 March 11 13:02 GMT (UK) »
He married Jane Davy in 1856 .A daughter jane was born dec. quarter in Melbourne .Frederick died in 1873 . Please try the 1871 census. It might be better.thanks


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Re: 1861 census
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 March 11 13:18 GMT (UK) »
Melbourne, Derbyshire comes under the Shardlow district.

There are 2 births for a Jane James in Shardlow, between 1856 and 1861:

Mar qtr 1859
Dec qtr 1860

There is also a death:

Dec qtr 1859

The 2nd Jane James (1860) is the daughter of William & Jane James of New Yard Melbourne (RG09/2489/60/13).

Do you have the marriage certificate of Frederick & Jane?
What I mean to say is: do you have incontrovertible evidence that they were, in fact, a couple?

The problem is I can't find Frederick with Jane in either 1861 or 1871.
But I can find Frederick with Caroline?!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: 1861 census
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 March 11 13:32 GMT (UK) »
I can't find that family in 1861 either.

This might be the James/Caroline marriage mentioned above:

Marriages Dec 1857 
Brookes  Caroline     Shardlow  7b 623   
Disney  Eliza     Shardlow  7b 623   
Hinds  Joseph     Shardlow  7b 623   
James  Frederick     Shardlow  7b 623

I'd also like to know if you have the Frederick James/Jane Davy marriage certificate ...
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Re: 1861 census
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 March 11 13:35 GMT (UK) »
He married Jane Davy in 1856 .A daughter jane was born dec. quarter in Melbourne .Frederick died in 1873 . Please try the 1871 census. It might be better.thanks

What is the date of the 1856 marriage?
Are you saying that daughter Jane was born Dec quarter of 1856?
Was Jane born before or after their marriage?

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Re: 1861 census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 March 11 13:45 GMT (UK) »
There is a marriage reg freeBMD
Sept qtr 1856
Derby
on ame page
Jane Davy
Elizabeth Boden
Frederick james
henry Millington
7b 566

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Re: 1861 census
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 03 March 11 13:58 GMT (UK) »
I can find a henry Milington with wife jane in Derbys
and a Frederick James with wife Elizabeth

You will need the certificate to find out who married who

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk