James William Darvill b 1873 Hammersmith

[chanteurs]

I am still having problems tracing my grandfather James William Darvill born 1873 in Hammersmith before the 1911 census when he is married to my grandmother Emily b1886.
We cannot find him on any other census so cannot find the rest of his family.
The only Darvill we found which seems to fit because of the slater/tiler connection is.
William Darvill b 1845 ? Hammersmith with wife Fanny b 1850  with children
Lizzie b 1875
John b 1877
Rose b 1880
George b 1882
Henry b 1885
Charles b 1887
Louisa b 1890

But still no James William b 1873

Could this be this be the same Darvill family?

[avm228]

In 1901 he seems (as James DARVILL) to be at 113 Brackenbury Rd, Hammersmith with wife Elizabeth, a stepson Arthur DRACOTT, and an infant daughter Alice:

RG13/47/45/35 (shout if you want full details)

[Mort29]

In the 1870 births range, Lizzie and John seem to be registered in Fulham (will be Kensington prior to 1875 I think) but no sign of yer maun James ..... could he have reversed forenames in later life ?

[avm228]

Is this the marriage to Emily - and if so have you obtained the certificate to find out further details including those of James' father?

Marriage, Sep qtr 1906

James William DARVILL
Emily Lavinia BAINBRIDGE

on same page, Rochford 4A 1161

[avm228]

I see that we are duplicating work already done on this family:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,515528.msg3713763.html#msg3713763

[chanteurs]

Yes thank you for that I asked last time about the previous partner with the child Alice who then dissappears and he married Emily Lydia Bainbridge.   I still cannot the trace him any further back that is why I have asked for you help again.  Do you think he has used his other name?  If so I still cannot trace him back very far even as a William.  I just want to be sure I am tracing back the correct James William Darvill.  I would appreciate your opinion as to should I continue with the William Darvill family even if it is not clear that James William is part of that family.

Thanks for your input.

[Mort29]

a tough one, esp with no Birth Index entry in the Hammersmith area.

I cant recommend attaching him to the family you mention w/o more proof ....


but ... looking at the 1891 census of Hammersmith - RG12/Piece 38 Folio 133 Page 52

a son WILLIAM has appeared born c1873 - Slaters Labourer.


actually he is there (along with an older sister Alice*) in the 1881 census too - RG11/Piece 57 Folio 57 Page 43 - but you didnt include him in your list of names ?


*Registered Kensington Dec Q 1869

[chanteurs]

Thnak you very much Mort 29  you can see why I am reluctant to add the William Darvill family to my family tree especially when there is not a James William listed there. 

I cannot seem to find my granfathers parents well not for sure on any of the census records.

I really do appreciate all the help this site has given me today and recently but my grandfather does seem to be rather elusive and I bow to your greater knowledge as I am rather new at this.

Thanks again.

[Mort29]

See updates in previous post aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAND  ..

Births Dec 1872  
Darvell  James William     Kensington  1a 218   


I guess they called him William at home ?