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Finneston Lanark?
« on: Sunday 27 February 11 15:52 GMT (UK) »
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I am still trying to trace James Sinclair. I have through the census and death records 3 siblings who say they were born in Finneston. I have their parents names but I can find no records of their birth or their parents  marriage or any records from a Finneston. When I type in Finneston I get a crane on the Clyde. The siblings were all born in the early 1800's and ended up living in Glassford. I was hoping that their might have been a fourth child - James but without the records it's a no go. So what is /was a Finneston and why are there no records? Any help or info would be appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Finneston Lanark?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 February 11 16:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Finniston is a a district in Glasgow,

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 February 11 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Are you looking at the original census records or are you looking at transcripts?
According to the 1851 census index, there were quite a few Sinclairs born in Glassford. It is most unusual to see a district such as Finnieston Glasgow appear in the census. Usually the entry would just be "Lanarkshire Glasgow" without the district.
Could it be that Finnieston has been badly transcribed from "Flemington" (an area in Avondale parish, which has a common boundary with Glassford parish).
Perhaps if you tell us a little more about the research you have already carried out, someone may come up with a fresh idea.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Finneston Lanark?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 February 11 19:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lodger
Over the last several years through census and death records I have been trying to trace all the Sinclair families in Glassford specifically between the 1841 to 1861 census to ascertain if my James Sinclair belongs to anyone in the parish.  There are 5 families and the one that might have been a "maybe" was a David Sinclair, sister Martha and William. David married Christian Shearer in 1841 and Martha (spinster)lived with them for a while. William disappears  between "41 and 51" and Martha goes to live with William"s wife Margaret (nee Simpson). It seemed a bit strange that both my James and William disappear within the same time frame. David died 12/06/66, Martha died 18/08/69 and on both death certificates parents were James Sinclair and Ann Davidson. Both Martha and David indicated they were born in Finneston on the "61" census so that's why I've been looking for Finneston records.Living in the Shearer family just prior to Christians marriage to David was a William Davidson age 65 so I've always thought there was a Shearer Davidson Sinclair connection but have never been able to find it. Sorry to be so long winded but it's a puzzlement. Can you help?

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Re: Finneston Lanark?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 February 11 23:10 GMT (UK) »
When and where did your James die?

Who were his parents and when was he born?

Would Finnieston have been in Renfrewshire in the early 1800s?

Is he on the 1841 census for Glassford and if so is he recorded as born Scotland or Lanarkshire?

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Re: Finneston Lanark?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 February 11 00:01 GMT (UK) »
According to the 1851 census index, the "David" Sinclair who was married to Christian, is named "Davidson Sinclair". He is then aged 47, Christian is 45 and Martha is 50 - all born in Glassford.

Can I ask you again - are you looking at the original census documents or perhaps at the Ancestry transcripts? Does it read "Lanarkshire, Finnieston"?

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Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Finneston Lanark?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 February 11 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Morning Sancti and Lodger
First of all thank you for trying to help; you may remember helping me with the Glassford Cemetery pictures. I'll try and answer Sancti's questions first. The answer is I don't know. My James Sinclair comes out of the mist of history with his marriage in Lesmahagow in "38" to Margaret Menzies.  The SP record says he was from the parish of Dalserf. I've tried to trace that angle but nothing. He dies between "41 and 44" as Margaret remarries in Oct. of that year in Glassford. I have SP documents of the "41"census and both marriages. The "41 " census states James was born in Lanark, age 25 so that makes a birth around 1816. But the "41" census really can't be trusted re: births and Lanark is a large area. So no confirmed parents, no death registered no burial located. As for Finnieston being in Renfrew I have no idea. For occupations he is listed as an ag. labourer, carter and on his son John's marriage certificate a potato dealer.
Now to Lodger
The Davidson Sinclair I believe is a transcription error. SP has no record of a birth by that name anywhere in Lanark or all Scotland for that matter, believe me I've tried but that's what is written on the "41" census from SP.  I know it says he was born in Lanark in "41" but by "61" it's stated as Finnieston or Finneston (which one is right?). The later census records "51" and later are from Ancestry. I use Ancestry to start a trace and if I get a good lead it's to Sp I go to try and confirm.
Any insights?

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Re: Finneston Lanark?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 February 11 15:10 GMT (UK) »
If the 41 and 51 census record him as Davidson, how can it be a transcription error? The 51 census has his birthplace as Glassford Parish - there is more to the parish than just the village of Glassford.
So, once again, if the later census images have not been viewed and you are relying solely on the Ancestry version no one can help you until you check the original document.

Does the 1861 census have"Lanarkshire Finnieston"???

As for Finniston (in Glasgow) being in Renfrewshire, I would say that it is highly unlikely as F/ton is on the north bank of the river and, as far as I know, Renfrewshire only reached to the south-west of Govan village.

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Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Finneston Lanark?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 February 11 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Here's what I have
41 Davidson S. born Lanark not married
51 Davidson S. born Glassford Lanark married to Christian Shearer. Children John 9, Barbara 7, Thomas 5, William 2 and Martha (sister) 50
61 David S. Not Davidson, married to Christian. Children James 21, (James S. was born before the marriage but is now back with the family. He lived with his grandfather John Shearer up until the grandfather's death ) John 19, Barbara 18, Thomas 15, William 12 and a new one George 8. The marriage took place in Glassford on the 13th of June 1841 just after the June 6th census. The marriage certificate stated David Sinclair not Davidson. Martha has moved and is now living with her sister in law Margaret in Glassford. So what are the chances to two separate families in the same town having identical children at exactly the same time.
The 61 census states Finnestwon (that's the spelling) Lanark from Ancestry.
Does that help or make it worse.
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