1871 Census please

[CaroleW]

Hi not certain if this helps you, but their is this Robert Barr in 1871:-

Robert Barr 28 occ Rivetter in Ship Yard b Scotland
He is a Boarder at Ellison Street, Jarrow, South Shields
Census Ref RG10/5044/40/15

That Robert was unmarried - son James was born c 1867 

[CaroleW]

There is this entry for Dalry Ayrshire but birthyear a bit out - all b Dalry

Robert Barr 31 blacksmith
Mary 30
James 1
Dalry ED 1 Page 18 Line 22

What was Roberts occupation on the 1904 marriage cert

[akcant]

Robert Barr was a Colliery Manager
James Barr married Grace Oliver in 1904

[CaroleW]

From the IGI

JAMES BARR   Birth:  20 MAR 1869   Kilmarnock, Ayr   
Father:  ROBERT BARR    Mother:  MARY DONALD 

1871 shows father Robert as a farmer of 110 acres

JAMES BARR  Birth:  04 JUL 1869   Dalry, Ayr
Father:  ROBERT BARR    Mother:  MARY NELSON 

As shown in my previous reply

They are the only 2 entries on the 1871 census who were born in Ayr

[CaroleW]

There is no 1871 English entry for him - the 1881 entry you found can be found on the IGI - parents James Barr & Helen Henney

[CaroleW]

For info only

There is a James Barr b Kilwinning Ayr stepson of Peter McPherson on the 1881 census - b Kilwinning Ayr 1866 - not him.  Traced family back and father was John

[akcant]

I found an 1881 Census with a James Barr living in Lancashire as a grandson to Susan Henney but cannot be sure if this is him.  I've not been able to find James Barr in ScotlandsPeople in 1891 or 1901.

Do you think this fits with the Henney family you've found?

[CaroleW]

I didn't find a Henney family - you did.  My reply was to rule him out

the 1881 entry you found can be found on the IGI - parents James Barr & Helen Henney

[Sharon01]

What was Jame's occupation when he married Grace?

Have found a few census results for Scotland but can not tie them in exactly, birth dates differ a little.

Sharon