Baxter in Clee With Weelsby 1871

[sft456]

Hello

I wonder if your Thomas & Arthur Baxter were the same as the 2 brothers who indentured my g grandfather Walter Haines on 22/5/1883 (aged 13˝) for 6˝ years. I believe they were Trawler Masters of Grimsby. Walter lodged with Arthur at 2 St Georges Terrace, Grimsby at the time – he had come from a broken home and stated that he had no relatives. Unfortunately the dates are between Census, so maybe no record of him exists for 1891

Walter was fortunate in that his employers were good men (apparently not always the case for young lads in the fishing industry at this time). He later became a Master Mariner and skippered the Grimsby steam trawler Horatia.

Simon

[Sonia Gardener]

Hello Simon

I've had a good check back on all my info but cannot pinpoint anything of use to you.
None of my Baxters are recorded at the address you have given on census either side of Walter Haines 1883 indenture but they all do seem to have been involved in the shipping industry.
Were you asking the question because you have not been able to establish Walter's parentage?
Sonia

[sft456]

Hello Sonia
Thanks for your reply. I had hoped that possibly we had the same Arthur Baxter and that I could find out a little more about Walter’s early life in Grimsby…….hence my interest in your topic. It is interesting to note that there were at least 2 sets of Baxter brothers, Arthur & Thomas, living in Grimsby at this time and both involved in the boat/fishing industry?

The info about the indenture etc (I prefer the word apprentice) was given to me by his grandson Michael Haines who found this in the archives in Grimsby. We have been unable to find an 1881 or 1891 Census record for Walter, though I assume he was living in Grimsby in the ‘90’s after he had completed his indenture/apprenticeship (he was married in New Clee in 1899) I think he was at Enfield Industrial School in 1881 and was presumably sent to Grimsby to learn a trade. I also believe his parents were separated and his mother was living with another man according to the 1881 C.

I would like to try and trace him in 1881 and 1891. I think he was a lodger in London (he was a deep sea fisherman) in the 1901 C, but cannot find that either
Simon

[Barleymow]

Hello Simon....perhaps Walter was at sea in 1901 census.
His wife Eliza and daughter Dorothy were living at the same address in1901 as when they married in 1899.


Barleymow

[Barleymow]

Walter is at home with his family in 1911 he says he is from Surrey




Barleymow

[sft456]

Hello Barleymow

Thanks for the reply

I did find, some time ago, a 1901 C record of him lodging with a family in London with his occupation as above described, but I can't seem to relocate it...........but this is the ref: (RG13/1251 folio158 p17). I have also located it on the 1901 site but not another ancestor site

In 1901 there was a lockout for the Grimsby fishing fleet and no trawler could put to sea for a few months. It is possibl that he went to London to find work during this time. His wife and daughter, meanwhile, were living with her parents in Grimsby. It is also interesting to note that Dorothy was born in Edmonton at this time, rather than in Grimsby. Perhaps he was working in London during 1900-1901?
Simon

[Sonia Gardener]

He's under Walker Haines bn Sutton Surrey living Tottenham

[Barleymow]

Ahh yes,I have found it...many thanks Sonia.

Did you find your Thomas Charles Baxter by the way?



Barleymow

[Sonia Gardener]

yes - thank you Barleymow - the pieces fitted together and led me back to William Baxter & Sarah Butler marriage 1802 Bethnal Green. I'd quite forgotten about them so I'm now spurred on to take a re-look!!