Jane Howe/key

[Halifax]

Please can anyone help to find a Jane Howe married name Key born on the 20th April 1841 in Camberwell.  Father John Howe mother Jane Batchelor.  I can find her christening in Woolwich at St Mary Magdalene  but no birth certificate.

She married Keeling Key and is on the census until 1881 then nothing.  Keeling died in 1886.  There was a son John Keeling key.

Many thanks Halifax

[Valda]

Hi


John Howe left a will proved at the Principal Registry 22nd April 1872. He died 21st March 1872. His beneficaries might be trackable through death duty registers held at The National Archives.


Regards

Valda

[Halifax]

Thank-you Valda for that information.  I will try to trace  the will.
John Howe  was a Parliamentary Agent in the 1850`s and  then as a Gentleman on other records.  He was my 2x Great Grandfather. 
Another question ---it says on the census born at sea about 1791.

I saw you can trace  births at sea from the 1850`s but is it impossible so early?

Many Thanks again Halifax.

[Valda]

Hi


There is a guide at the top of the London and Middlesex boards on wills. The first part will help with information for obtaining a copy of the will. The last section deals with Death Duty Registers.

1791 is well before the start of civil registration 1st July 1837 and the state's growing involvement in birth registration.
If his father was in the British military then the eventual baptism might be before a military chaplain and therefore in the General Registry Office Overseas (army) index.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/bmdatseaorabroad.htm?WT.lp=rg-5917

If his father was in the East India Company military or working as a civil servant for the East Indian Company then the baptism might have taken place in India (if an outward journey). If so the baptism will be held in the Indian Office records at the British Library some of which are online (though earlier are less likely to be online)

http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/Home.aspx

and

http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_person_search.php


If the journey was one where the family were returning home then the baptism may simply have occurred wherever they lived on their return.


Possible siblings to Jane

18th December 1836 St Mary Magdalene Woolwich born 14th October
John Batchelor Howe parents John and Jane, Prospect Row, father's occupation gentleman
Deaths Mar 1884   Howe  John Batchelor  47  Wandsworth  1d 408

24th June 1838 St Mary Magdalene Woolwich born 28th May
Henry Howe parents John and Jane, Charlotte Place, father's occupation gentleman 

and a burial
11th November 1842 St Mary Magdalene Woolwich
Jane Howe aged 39, Warwick Street


Royal Navy Continuous Service Engagement Books
Description Name  Howe, John Batchelor
Place of Birth:  Woolwich, Kent
Continuous Service Number:  271
Date of Volunteering:  01 July 1853
Date 14 October 1836
Catalogue reference ADM 139/3 

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7841251&queryType=1&resultcount=1

1861 census RG9 4435 folio 119
Renown Beirut Syria
John B Howe 23A B (Seaman)  Woolwich, Kent

1871 census RG10 704 folio 21
Calvert Road Battersea
John Howe 33 Head Married Labourer at a barge builders Woolwich Kent
Ellin Howe 27 Wife Married St Pancras Middlesex
Ellen Howe 5 Daughter Lambeth Surrey
George Howe 2 Son Islington Middlesex

1881 census RG11 639 folio 15
4 Parkham Street Battersea
John Howe 45 Head Married Barge builders's labourer Bath Somerset
Ellen Howe 37 Wife Married Islington Middlesex
Ellen Howe 16 Daughter Cigar Makers Apprentice Lambeth Surrey
George Howe 13 Son Islington Middlesex
Martha Howe 9 Daughter Battersea Surrey

More interesting

1851 census HO107 1590 folio 249
Villa Road Plumstead Kent
Edward Barnett 32 Head Married Modellar in Brass ? Woolwich Kent (Burnett on the 1841 census - a blacksmith)
Jane Barnett 32 Wife Married Woolwich Kent
Edward Barnett 10 Son Woolwich Kent
Emma Barnett 9 Daughter Woolwich Kent
Amelia Barnett 6 Daughter Woolwich Kent
George Barnett 4 Son Woolwich Kent
James Barnett 3 Son Woolwich Kent
Jane Ann Barnett 1 Daughter Woolwich Kent
John Howe 14 Cousin Woolwich Kent


Marriages Mar 1840   (>99%)
BURNETT  Edward Thomas    Dartford  5 117   
HISCOCK  Jane     Dartford  5 117

Deaths Sep 1887   
Burnett  Edward Thomas  68  Woolwich  1d 725

A Jane Ann Burnett was a witness on Jane Howe's marriage to Keeling Key



Regards

Valda

[Halifax]

So Many thanks Valda for all your work. I am delighted with all the information.  My BT line has been down for ten days that is why I couldn`t reply.  It is great to be back and find your message,  I will be busy researching, and let you know  any results.  Thanks again. Halifax.

[jennifer c]

15/11/1868 St.Nicholas Plumstead

Keeling Key (wid) Grocer address Plumstead father George Builder

Jane Howe father John Howe Gentleman

Witnesses John Howe & Jane Ann Burnett

Keeling's daughter Emma c.1849 married William Richard Pinn 1869 Greenwich

Jennifer

[Halifax]

Many Thanks for that Information I was able to look at the Certificates.  It is all a journey of discovery,and piecing the jigsaw together.

Thanks again Halifax.