Author Topic: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)  (Read 51893 times)

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #117 on: Saturday 05 March 11 22:26 GMT (UK) »
There is a novel called"Arcadia" written by Elizabeth Laird about the journey

Aboard the barque NEW ZEALAND were sad Gaelic families from the Highlands and roaring boys in the single men's berths. In the cabin accommodation, the Jamieson family had salvaged just a thousand pounds from business disaster to invest in a new prosperity, while in the cramped steerage quarters the Dunbars bade farewell to the hard times that had befallen the Paisley weavers.
At some point in those long months of voyage, Edward Jamieson caught his first sight of Jessie Dunbar across the rolling deck of the NEW ZEALAND and a love story began...


Elizabeth Laird's ARCADIA is that love story, spanning the decade of hope and hardship that was the 1840s, reaching from the waters of the Clyde across thousands of miles of ocean to the new-found land they called the Great White Cloud. The streets of Edinburgh and the docks of London, the Paisley of the weavers and the India of the nabobs, and--most especially--the settlements and bush of New Zealand in the days of the pioneers spring vividly to life in this impressive debut of an extraordinary new talent.

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #118 on: Saturday 05 March 11 23:23 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Janette, you've just provided me with an epiphany I think!

But first, can you give me the source for this information?

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The New Zealand Company announces the sailing of the passenger ship the NEW ZEALAND, a barque of 455 tons, under the command of Captain C. H. Worth, to depart from Greenock, July 1842, bound for Port Nicholson and the Colony of Nelson in New Zealand...

Now, the epiphany: You mentioned "the hard times that had befallen the Paisley weavers." James PARKER had been a weaver in 1841 but only months later when he emigrated to New Zealand his stated occupation was 'Sawyer'.

Can anyone tell me anything about those 'hard times' suffered by the weavers? What happened. Might this have been the trigger for James PARKER to emigrate?

This is great stuff. ;D

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HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #119 on: Saturday 05 March 11 23:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Janette, you've just provided me with an epiphany I think!

But first, can you give me the source for this information?

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The New Zealand Company announces the sailing of the passenger ship the NEW ZEALAND, a barque of 455 tons, under the command of Captain C. H. Worth, to depart from Greenock, July 1842, bound for Port Nicholson and the Colony of Nelson in New Zealand...


It was in an advertisment for the book "Arcadia" and also here

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0c4v/


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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #120 on: Saturday 05 March 11 23:43 GMT (UK) »
My 5th Great Grandfather, James Brown, was a 'hand loom weaver' in Paisley around that time too.  He and his family came over in 1848 - so I'd be keen to know what happened to make that industry collapse.
Jamieson (Aberdeenshire / Otago). Watt (Aberdeenshire/ Southland), Lane (Nova Scotia / England / South Island), Brown (Paisley / Abbey Eat Taieri), Houseal/  Hausihl (Germany / Philadelphia / Nova Scotia / Dover / South Island), Gillespie (Glasgow / Ireland), Farquharson, Urquhart, Kaua (East Coast, North Island), Hughes (Anglesea / East Coast, North Island), Boyd (Scotland / East Coast, North Island), Bulfin (south Island)


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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #121 on: Sunday 06 March 11 00:06 GMT (UK) »
From Wikipedia

Scotland's transformation into a rich leader of modern industry came suddenly and unexpectedly.[37] The population grew steadily in the 19th century, from 1,608,000 in the census of 1801 to 2,889,000 in 1851 and 4,472,000 in 1901.[51] The economy, long based on agriculture,[52] began to industrialize after 1790. At first the leading industry, based in the west, was the spinning and weaving of cotton. In 1861 the American Civil War suddenly cut off the supplies of raw cotton and the industry never recovered. Thanks to its many entrepreneurs and engineers, and its large stock of easily mined coal, Scotland became a world centre for engineering, shipbuilding, and locomotive construction, with steel replacing iron after 1870.[53]

Nevertheless, there never were enough high-paying jobs, so during the 1841-1931 era, about 2 million Scots emigrated to North America and Australia, and another 750,000 relocated to England.

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #122 on: Sunday 06 March 11 00:10 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm, doesn't quite provide the answer, I feel.  ???
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #123 on: Sunday 06 March 11 00:17 GMT (UK) »
was a 'hand loom weaver' in Paisley around that time too.

So was my ggrandfather & members of his family were in the Industry as "Spinners".   I found out that he was partially disabled, (wonder if it was a work related accident).  Hard times had befallen on him and he died in the Poorhouse :'(

Two siblings emigrated here in 1864 & 1866 and found out in admission papers to poorhouse that two had emigrated to USA.


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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #124 on: Sunday 06 March 11 00:28 GMT (UK) »
I remember a couple of those WDYTYA programmes on the work in some of those cotton mills in UK
unbelievable conditions  :'(

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #125 on: Sunday 06 March 11 00:35 GMT (UK) »
Please Sir,does this answer your question

http://www.scran.ac.uk/scotland/pdf/SP2_2Employment.pdf

under the heading
2. INDUSTRIALISATION
2.1 THE FIRST PHASE 1800-1850

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