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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #90 on: Friday 04 March 11 04:08 GMT (UK) »
Ummm

Closest I can find :  Jonathan WALTON aged 55, in 1893 in NZ BDM !  (10 Feb 1893, NZBDM online ref 1893/764)

Also, although civil registrations in UK commenced 1837,  compulsory and with people to enforce the regulations .... well that came later ... in England it became compulsory in 1853 for births, but I am not sure about marriages or deaths!

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #91 on: Friday 04 March 11 07:03 GMT (UK) »
 :-[  :-[ Some info for questions posed at reply #44   ::)

The SHIP Hotel and John Litchfield NEWMAN

Obit for Mrs J L Newman Taranaki Herald, Volume XXXV, Issue 7027, 29 March 1886, Page 2
Obit for Mr J L Newman Taranaki Herald, Volume XXXV, Issue 7217, 8 November 1886, Page 2

The couple were married at New Plymouth in 1849 (ref NZ BMD online1849/140) She was Harriet Matilda HONEYFIELD and he was John Litchfield NEWMAN .  The Obits mention five children.  Possibly (ie from a submitted online tree that needs confirming) George John, 1851-1924; William John 1853-1921;  Martha Anne 1855 -1876; Albina Elizabeth 1860-1948.  Having trouble finding registrations for their children, although logically they were born in the Taranaki district, so I haven't been able to confirm any of those five births.

The Ship Hotel is mentioned in Mr J L Newman’s Obit. 

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #92 on: Saturday 05 March 11 01:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for all the wonderful information and for following the topic.

More meaty bites (and yes, more questions) to come very shortly.

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #93 on: Saturday 05 March 11 02:24 GMT (UK) »
I'm just watching and reading  - with awe at your cleverness!!  and 'cos I can't get up!  ;)

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #94 on: Saturday 05 March 11 02:35 GMT (UK) »
Still got a captive audience, then!

Firstly, it's time for another timeline to illustrate progress so far:

Timeline 3:

1833 Believed born at parish of St Mary the Great, Cambridge CAM ENG, son of Thomas and Deborah. Believed baptized privately as Thomas Jonathan WALTON and later adopted the middle name of 'Fellows'.
1835   Believed baptized in church.
c’1863-1866?      Served with Taranaki Mounted Volunteers.
25 October 1865  Married Annie PARKER at New Plymouth TNK.
c’1866-1868      Served with Armed Constabulary, rank of Mounted Constable.
7 September 1868   Member of No. 3 Company, Armed Constabulary.
7 September 1868   Wounded at Battle of Te Ngutu o te Manu.
11 September 1868   Evacuated from Patea TNK to Wanganui per Woodpecker.
12 September 1868   Mentioned in the Wanganui Times as one of those wounded in action at Te Ruaruru [sic] TNK on 7 September 1868.
September 1868      In hospital at Waihi TNK.
3 June 1871      Witness to the suicide of Henry MEARS at Blenheim MBH. A labourer.
5 June 1871      A witness at the inquest into the death of Henry MEARS held at Blenheim MBH.
28 May 1873      Applied for New Zealand War Medal. Living at Picton MBH.
26 November 1873   Acknowledged receipt of his New Zealand War Medal. Living at Picton MBH.



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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #95 on: Saturday 05 March 11 02:58 GMT (UK) »
The Parker Family.

Since Annie PARKER's 1865 Intention to Marry Notice mentioned that her family were from Nelson, I started my search there and found them on the Nelson City Council Early Settlers Database.
http://ww1.applications.nelsoncitycouncil.co.nz/early-settlers/

This database showed that James (aged 41) and Sarah (37) PARKER and five children arrived in Nelson on 4 November 1842 aboard the ship New Zealand. The children were: William (aged 17), Margaret (16) and three unnamed children aged 10, 8 and 5 (Annie PARKER was born three years after their arrival).

A more detailed transcription of the New Zealand’s passenger list on another website shows that James PARKER was a sawyer, and listed six children whose ages were: 17, 16, 12, 10, 8 and 5 years. The two oldest children were the only ones named, and both had an occupation. William was a joiner and Margaret was a servant. The New Zealand left Cumray on the Clyde SCT on 4 July 1842.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ourstuff/NewZealand.htm

A response to an enquiry I placed on the RootsChat Scotland Board provided a transcription of an 1841 Scotland Census entry which gave me the names of the four anonymous children who travelled on the New Zealand. I'm not sure what the abbreviation for James' occupation means but apparantly he was a weaver.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,509419.0.html

1841 Scotland Census for Glasgow St Pauls, Lanarkshire.
Address: High St
Parish Number: 644/1
James PARKER       45 Occupation: St Lo W D
Sairah PARKER       40
Wm PARKER       15
Margrate PARKER    14
James PARKER       10
Hugh PARKER       8
Barbara PARKER       6
Christian PARKER    3 (female)

The same enquiry provided me with dates of death for Sarah PARKER who died in 1882 aged 84, and James who died in 1887 aged 92.

I made contact with a Parker family researcher who provided marriage information for three of James and Sarah's children:

Child 1): William (1825-1904) married Susanna CANE (or CAVE) at Stoke NLN in 1852.
Child 2): Margaret (1826-1906) married John WESTRUPP, although I cannot find a marriage in New Zealand.
Child 5): Barbara (1834-1901 at Mangatainoka MWT) married John Hicks PARKER in 1857. I did find an Intention to Marry Notice for this marriage:

Intention to Marry Notice. Archives NZ Ref: BDM 20/2 1857 Nelson p.100/61. Microfilm: R6906.
Dated 11 November: Hicks PARKER, bachelor, a Mariner aged 28 years living at Town of Nelson, length of residence 10 months, intends to marry Barbara PARKER, a spinster aged 23 years living at Stoke, Suburban South, length of residence 5 years, at the residence of Rev. John WARREN in Washington Valley, Nelson. Minister: Rev. John WARREN.

So, is anyone able to help with these little mysteries?

1. Where is Cumray on the Clyde? Can anyone tell me about it's location, significance to emigration or history?
2. Can anyone find any information on the ship New Zealand?
3. Can anyone provide any information about the six children of James and Sarah PARKER (or for that matter, their parents lives in Nelson)?
4. Why was Annie PARKER living in New Plymouth in 1865? What brought her there? Given that Annie was 20 in 1865 this implies that she might still be living with her parents. Perhaps James had brought his whole family north to live in Taranaki, at least temporarily. Was he working in New Plymouth, perhaps as a sawyer on government contract? Can anyone find him living there?


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STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #96 on: Saturday 05 March 11 03:20 GMT (UK) »
1. Where is Cumray on the Clyde? Can anyone tell me about it's location, significance to emigration or history?

The modern day spelling for Cumray is Cumbrae,there are 2 islands in the Firth of Clyde
Little Cumbrae (wee Cumbrae) and great Cumbrae
There is a lighthouse on Little Cumbrae
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Cumbrae#Lighthouse


Cheers Janette

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #97 on: Saturday 05 March 11 03:22 GMT (UK) »
Oh bother - I just found all that out and even put up the link - then forgot to hit post!   ;)

Here is the link!    ;)

http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/40679/details/little+cumbrae+island+old+lighthouse/
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
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Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Magical Mystery Tour: The Rediscovered Life of Thomas Fellows WALTON (1833-1884)
« Reply #98 on: Saturday 05 March 11 03:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Wiggy and Janette,

But this leaves me slightly more confused. Why would they leave from a small island and not a port?

What port would the ship have left from then?

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MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
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STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL