trying to find "St. Joseph's Church, Miltown"- Daly/Faragher

[bour93]

Looking for any information regarding the ancestry of Patrick Joseph Daley (1880-1918). His parents were John Daly and Bridget Faragher. Patrick was baptized in "St. Joseph's church in Miltown" on Oct 28, 1880. His sponsors were Micheal Greany and Mary Faragher.

He later left for America in 1900, and died in 1918 in Massachusetts.

I am stuck, since there seems to be several Miltown/Milltowns in Ireland. I found two (so far?) that have a St.Joseph's church --County Galway, and County Clare (Miltwon Malbay?)-- but have not been to reach anyone at either place.

Anyone know if there might be another St Joseph's/Miltown in another county?
Anyone have access to Miltown Malbay information that might tie into this?

Another forum member from another site pointed out to me that there was a record on familysearch.org that a Patrick Daly born to a John Daly and Bridget Daly Farragher, November 9, 1880, in Banaher. Perhaps the translation of the birth date of the original record could have been incorrectly read, since the baptismal letter is original, and clearly states October....

or could it be that common of an occurrence of another Patrick being born near the same time frame?

If it is the same Patrick, would it make sense to be born in Banaher (County Offaly?) and be baptized in a "Miltown"?

Any info is appreciated- thanks!

Steve

[shanew147]

see post under Co. Clare : Trying to find "St Joseph's church, Miltown;" Daly/Farragher

[bour93]

I think i actually found it. There is a Banagher right next to a Miltown in County Galway, Doonbally DED, Liskeevy Parish). the names on the 1901 census records match up with Patrick's parents, and there is a Greany family right next to him. A Michael Greany was a sponsor at his baptism.

I'm going to dig into this one. This might be him. I believe there is a St. Joseph church in this Milltown as well.


Steve

[carol8353]

That's brilliant Steve,I agree totally that looks just like the family you need.

Here they are in 1911 too,incase you didn't get that yet.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Doonbally/Banagher/474954/

The 1911 tells how long they have been married,which is 50 years, 9 children born but by 1911 only 3 of them still alive.

Regards

Carol (again  )

[ballyheeragh]

Hi,

I'm familiar with the area, so let me know if I can help.  You've got the correct church etc. If you are searching for marriages, baptisms etc (in the national library in Dublin) or elsewhere, make sure that you search for records under Addergoole and Liskeevy (Liskeevey), as this was the name of the parish pre 1900 (or thereabouts). 

The boundaries of the parish might have been redrawn at some stage (I could be wrong here!).  Nowadays, the parish of Milltown takes in the Milltown area (St Josephs church), and theres another church in Ballyglass (about 3.5 miles west/north west of Milltown.  Most of the Ballyglass half of the parish live in Co. Mayo, whereas the Milltown half is based in Co Galway - this is very unusual as far as I'm aware.  There is a graveyard in Ballyglass, very close to the church.

In the Milltown side of the parish, there are graveyards in Liskeevy, Kilclooney and Addergoole.
As suggested above, I'm not entirely sure if the modern parish of Milltown has precisely the same boundaries as the "old" parish of Addergoole and Liskeevy.

Another potential distractor is that there is a parish/district somewhere in Mayo (to the north of the county as far as I'm aware) also called Addergoole, so dont fall into that trap.

Milltown is a lovely little place - and for most of the past decade has been the tidiest town in Co Galway.

There are still Farraghers in the parish, not so sure about Dalys, though there are Dalys in the neighbouring parish of Kilconly.  Both names are reasonably common throughout the county.

Best of luck with the next phase of the search!

[bour93]

thanks, Carol.

I have a feeling this is them, but i find it odd that john states that he is 71 on the 1911 census, but on the 1901 census, he shows 59. Normal discrepeancy?

Also, i know that John married Bridget Faragher, and the closest Faragher i find in Griffith's valuation is in Abbeyland North, near Dunmore. It looks to be about 10km apart---would this seem out of the ordinary for them to meet, possibly around 1840-1850? Not sure about their movement/migration patterns.

Steve

[carol8353]

HI Steve

A 2 year difference in age from census to census is perfectly normal.
It depends who fills it in and when their birthday is too!
Don't forget that people didn't really bother too much about their age as we do today.Where we seem to be filling in endless forms and having to write our date of birth.

That was a very kind offer of ballyheeragch to help wasn't it with his/her local knowledge.

I'm sure you have found the rigth Daly family

Carol

[ammeneedia]

People often aged 15 years between 1901 & 1911 !!!
As registration of Births in Ireland did not commence until 1864, the census returns of 1851 were used to confirm if one was 70+ years and qualified for a pension when scheme started in 1908.
The 1901 census ages are probably more accurate as there were a considerable number of people aged 70 / 71 on 1911 census to "Qualify".     Ger 

[carol8353]

Cheeky monkeys 

Thanks Ger,I didn't know that !

Carol