Hi Spidermonkey,
I did subscribe to those sites last year and Genes Reunited but couldn't get any further then where I am now.
I have a marriage certificate - m. 27/11/1904, James Barr, 37 yrs, Millwright, adress at time of marriage - 71 Claremont St, Gateshead on Tyne, father of Groom - Robert Barr a Manager of a colliery married to Grace Oliver, b. 1877??, 27 yrs, address at time of marriage - 71 Claremont St., Gateshead o Tyne, father of bride - Robert Oliver a Engine Driver.
I have a 1911 Census :-
James Barr Head 44 yrs motor attendant at electric power plant, nr. Ayr, Scotland
Grace Barr Wife 34 yrs, Gateshead, Co. Durham
James Oliver Barr Son 5 yrs Gateshead, Co. Durham
Robert Oliver Barr Son 4 yrs Gateshead, Co. Durham
William Oliver Barr Son 2 yrs Gateshead, Co. Durham
Robert Oliver Father of Grace 61 yrs Motor Mill Man, South Shields, Co. Durham
living at 14 Ord Street, Newcastle on Tyne
Akcant