WiggyHobbes Scavenger Hunt - Part 2

[Wiggy]

   GRO   -   I have limited ability to go to lots of sites - I get too confused!!       Have already been called a Wally for getting confused!!!   
  I now remember you told me about the other - but, at the time I was ordering, it had slipped my mind - too many things slip my mind!  I'd better hurry up and sort things out before my mind becomes a total flour bag!   

Yes JM, I think we can give the Victorian Gaunt a miss for now - until something concrete and positive turns up!   Clear the decks a bit!   

[deb usa]

Hi

I've been searching again for anything else on ECG ...can't find anything more. 

Yesterday I found a marriage of an Edward Gaunt also in 1915, West Derby .... I think this was the following quarter of when Edith married George Forsyth. I wonder if they did get divorced and both remarried.

I still can't see ECG in the UK in 1911 ..... arrrgghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


deb

[majm]

 

Yes, Deb .... there's an Edward Gaunt who married Elizabeth Connolly in 1915.  Interestingly at the Lancs bdm website, their index reference is  REG_WD/313/107  and their index reference for Edith Gaunt to George Forsyth (REG_WD/313/117) and BOTH those ceremonies were "West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended" ... so perhaps these ceremonies were only TEN apart at that Registry office.  In which case, there were very few registry marriages at that office in 1915.

 http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi

The interesting bit for me is that GRO ref for Edward to Elizabeth is Indexed online as Q3, Vol 8b 1187 and that Edith's to George is indexed online as Q1, Vol 8b 867 ... 
 http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

IF, and tis only speculation, but ...

IF that was ECG marrying Elizabeth Connolly in 1915 then that places him YET again in Liverpool area .... so he could be Edna Frances' DAD ... 

Ummm....  I will try to follow up further, but not at this minute where it is 2:52 am in NSW ... yes, that's pre-dawn.    

Cheers,  JM

[Wiggy]

Thinking - would getting divorced and remarrying be enough to cause a big rift in the family - big enough that the family don't have any further contact with him??

 The BIG fly in that ointment is that the family last recorded knowledge of Edward in 1908 - 7 years prior to this possible marriage!

But I like the thinking that Edward was around to be Edna's father!!!      

I was thinking all along that the gap in births between Olive and Edna could be put down to the fact that Edward was away 'sailing the ocean blue' - and I still like that idea!

Don't tell me JM;   
You think I should buy that marriage cert for Edward and Elizabeth!!      

I have now ordered Edna's birth cert - and it had better give me something positive one way or the other!!!   

Wiggy   

[majm]

Hi Wiggy,

Up early too!

Would I ever make a suggestion re getting certificates ....  or primary records  from local registers  and insist that you persist inspite of professional archivists not knowing what is in their own catalogues of their own archives ...            

Anyways, there's at least three children for Edward & Elizabeth Gaunt showing her former name as Connolly.  As they may still be living, I will note only that those births were registered at West Derby, Liverpool, Lancs, indexed as follows
1916, Q2 Male, GRO 8b pg 631
1917, Q4, Male, GRO 8b pg 535
1920, Q3, Female GRO 8b pg 707

IF only we could find a will for Emily Gaunt nee Ransom .... (ECG's mum) .... if only  well that's one primary record that could provide the definitive answer.


Cheers, (good fine washing day here)  JM

[youngtug]

Nothing new.http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=2196

[deb usa]

ummmmmmmmmmmmm

Okay ECG married Edith Corrin in 1906, Claude Cecil is born July q 1907 ...family say they last saw ECG in 1908. We also have EC Gaunt arriving Sydney, NSW from Melbourne on the Suffolk (which had come from Liverpool), 23 April 1908. Olive Lillian is born July q 1908. So Edith had to be pregnant before he left.

Unfortunately is does not say when the Suffolk left London!

So ECG had to arrive back in the  UK sometime between 1908 and 1914 in order to have Edna Francis in 1914. Unless Edna is not his child.

What if Olive Lillian does not belong to  Edward Cecil either...  ...what if he came back to the UK and there was Olive ...if he had been gone awhile he may have known that Olive couldn't be his and so he LEFT .....
That's my story .... 

deb

[deb usa]

another thought ...why would ECG not tell his family about his wife and child in England ...he was in Sydney in 1908 and the rellies say they last SAW him then ...so they must have spoken to each other .....