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WiggyHobbes Scavenger Hunt - Part 2
« on: Friday 25 February 11 04:00 GMT (UK) »


This is the continuation of Wiggy's Scavenger Hunt.

Link to Part One.     http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,514249.0.html
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Re: WiggyHobbes Scavenger Hunt - Part 2
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 February 11 04:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wiggy,

If you get a chance, how about a summary of where we are up to in the hunt for Edward Cecil GAUNT ....

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Re: WiggyHobbes Scavenger Hunt - Part 2
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 February 11 04:33 GMT (UK) »
So we have proved that Edward Gaunt married Edith Corrin in 1906 and they had two (or three) children, Claude Cecil, 1907. Olive Lillian, 1908,   and possibly Edna Frances 1914.   Edna Frances married George Hilditch in 1935 and it is to a descendant of this family that I refer below.   
Question 1. if Edna was not Edward's, why didn't George Forsyth call her his when he married her mother a year later??

We have Edith remarried to George Forsyth in 1915 which narrows the window of death of Edward to 1908 - 1914/15.  (Unless they divorced -)

Edward Cecil Gaunt last heard of by family in 1908 when he was known to be crew on the SS Suffolk trading between UK and Aus.    His siblings applied to wind up his affairs in Tasmania, in 1934.  It would seem that the Tasmanian family didn't know about the British family
Question 2. - why otherwise would they be dealing with his affairs, and not his English family - (who could have had someone in Tassie acting for them)??

We have not found a death for him!   -  or a divorce if that were the case.    Anywhere in the world seems fair game at the moment - we have searched the overseas death lists to no avail.
 
Crew lists seem to be harder to access and it seems I need a mole in the Kew Archives for that!!     :-\

I believe Edward C would have been too old for the army at over 50 when the war started - but I suppose death from some war cause is not impossible
Question 3. - would that account for no knowledge of his whereabouts I wonder?       :-\

Oh where, oh where has my Gx2uncle gone
Oh where, oh where can he be?? . . . .
       ;D ;D


I have just written to someone who owns a tree on An****ry - he has George Hilditch in his tree - the one who married Edna Gaunt - so we shall see what happens with that!

According to that tree, the next generation of Hilditch is still alive  (and so he ought to be - he's my generation!!    ;D ;D )  -  so that could be a good source of info if they will come to the party!


Wiggy    :)

Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: WiggyHobbes Scavenger Hunt - Part 2
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 February 11 06:34 GMT (UK) »
Wow,

Just typed up replies to all three questions and they are snuffled by cyber space ...

Back shortly

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Re: WiggyHobbes Scavenger Hunt - Part 2
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 February 11 06:39 GMT (UK) »
Q1

Edith Gaunt's 1915 marriage was registered in first quarter.  It was at a registry office at West Derby, a sub-district of Liverpool.  The Lancs BDM project has a copy of the m.c.
GAUNT Edith FORSYTH George
West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended
REG_WD/307/117
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
That LOCAL record should show info about the marital status of Edith GAUNT (widow/divorcee etc)

Edna Frances's birth in 1914 was registered in the second quarter ....  Perhaps Edith and George met AFTER Edna was born ... 

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Re: WiggyHobbes Scavenger Hunt - Part 2
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 February 11 06:44 GMT (UK) »
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Q2
I think the TAS family knew of ECG's 1906 marriage, and as many of them would have knowledge of legal matters (stockbrokers, board members, etc) they would believe that his n o k would be Edith.  Re 1927,  I guess/speculate that the TAS public trustee sought to distribute some funds that had been sitting idle for some years, thus sought to find a TAS n o k for ECG... hence the wait of seven years.  BUT, I have not found any public notice in newspapers etc seeking any info about ECG's whereabouts ....

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Re: WiggyHobbes Scavenger Hunt - Part 2
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 February 11 06:51 GMT (UK) »
Q3
While I have NOT found ECG at the National Archives of Australia's digitised WWI records,  I have found something that could be way off track, or perhaps could help http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx  search as a guest.

A WWII service record that has NOT yet been digitised (you can arrange for this, costs around $20, takes up to 3 months) is for an Edward Gaunt, born 16 Feb 1909 at Clifton Hill, Victoria Australia.  He enlisted at Fitzroy, Victoria.  His n o k :  Edna Gaunt

There may be NO connection to ECG, .... and I note that Edna may be this chap's wife/mother/sister/cousin etc.

I will try to follow up on that 1909 born Victorian.

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Re: WiggyHobbes Scavenger Hunt - Part 2
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 February 11 07:12 GMT (UK) »
Well, there was a nephew Stuart Edward Gaunt born 1905, father Norman Stuart G. - but that was Tassie.  Can't see any others who might be related - doesn't mean there aren't any but . . . .  I have this family fairly well recorded up to the generation we are talking about.    I wonder if any of Matthias's brood's offspring came this way, maybe?   Making them cousins, or second cousins . . . .

There were a couple of other quite unrelated Gaunt families in Victoria in the late 1800s . . .  I keep tripping over them when trolling through the papers!

I still think Edna Frances could be Edward's (Frances being Edward's grandmother's name!  that was what first drew me to that entry way back) - but how to prove it I don't know - other than getting her birth cert - which I might have to do - (next payday!)

 I am now awaiting the arrival of Edith and George Forsyth's marriage cert!  Sorry I've already said that in the last thread.
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: WiggyHobbes Scavenger Hunt - Part 2
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 February 11 07:21 GMT (UK) »
Re Edward Gaunt born Vic 16 Feb 1909, the WWII nominal roll has him being discharged 22 Feb 1941.  The online index for Vic births has a likely entry giving his parents as  Robt Wm Freeman Gaunt and  Adelaide Elizth Nelson (Vic rego # 2141, with birth place as Clifton Hill in 1909)
I won't follow up any further along that thought.

Fingers crossed that you have some pennies left for food and shelter for yourself, did you order the mc from GRO or from Lancs bdm project   ;)

Cheers,  JM

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